This mutation?

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Youngspud
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This mutation?

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I have a rough idea on what this mutation is but I was just wanting to see some other peoples perspective cos I'm not totally sure, any suggestions would be appreciated.

http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0096009/photo ... 666821379/
Youngspud
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Yeh I thought it was a cinnamon, I don't really know anything about the Dom edged and how to tell if it is Dom edged. I was told it is an indigo and also that it is a male but the guy I got it from said he didn't really know anything about it besides that its father was a buttercup and that this one was an indigo. But I'm open to suggestions cos I'm not sure he totally knew much about it.
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I was told it is an indigo and also that it is a male but the guy I got it from said he didn't really know anything about it besides that its father was a buttercup and that this one was an indigo.
It seems that the person does not know what a buttercup is, i assume he calls it by what he sees.

So in saying that, i think the father was a df edged, cinnamon turquoiseblue, perhaps similar to the one in my pic. (if i did not know anything about genetics i would call that bird a buttercup, maybe)
That would explain the offspring and certainly not indigo, how did he get an indigo from a buttercup.. :?


So Molossus was right except for a hen, i think the guy got that right somehow.
a hen would look like a df edged cinn. more like the birds in my pic,would i be right Molossus?
the birds flights are too dark for a hen IMO
- Ask the breeder if he got buttercups from the same pair and if they were all hens? if he says Yes then the above is true!

** What if it was a buttercup father? the hen had to be at least split or colored buttercup to get buttercup offspring.

DF Edged cinn turqblue male - blue cinn edged hen
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Well luckily enough I am actually going to pair it with a Df violet once I find out the sex.
Yeh he meant that this one should be split to buttercup, it was actually a really confusing conversation,
He said the mother was indigo, and the father was similar to the mother but cinnamon and buttercup due to the red eye. He even said he didn't know much about genetics but that there were a lot of mutations mixed into this one bird. And yeah the birds flights are really dark actually even the tail is fairly dark towards the end.
Cinnblue turq Dom edged seems good to me and if it is split for buttercup(CHF) than that is even better :)
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molossus wrote:cinn blue turq dom edged. probably a hen.
I think you got this one wrong. :o Notice the tail is dark, making this a SF cock in my opinion. And I think the general body colour it is too dark to be homozygous cinnamon either.

My call: turquoise(blue) edged / ?cinnamon male. And a good looking one at that.
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It's not just a turqblue, I have a normal turqblue hen, and a DF turqblue cock, and you can really tell the difference, this one is a lot lighter than the other two. Where the others are blue this one is a light blue/ aqua colour, and the green is more of a minty green. But yes the tail is very dark at the end. I can try and get a pic tomorrow as the weather was pretty average here today.
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Youngspud wrote:Where the others are blue this one is a light blue/ aqua colour, and the green is more of a minty green.
That is because of the edged mutation.
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molossus wrote:in cinnamon mutations these will appear brownish. get the bird sexed too....my theory is that in hens the color will be darker. but I wont be cross if Jo is right on this one. he needs the morale booster... :mrgreen:
The edged hen's colour is lighter than a SF edged cock. And the edged mutation also shows brown in the rachis, but not the overall brownish wash in the body colour. It has been reported previously, and we have found the same thing in our breeding results. Food for thought. :wink:
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Just some updated news on this one, still havnt had it sexed but will do so very shortly, I am just wondering about its pink/cream feet and what would be causing that?
Here's a link to a photo I took today in this crappy melbourne weather, really made the tail and flights look real dark after some rain.
http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0096009/photo ... 757167852/
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Youngspud wrote:Just some updated news on this one, still havnt had it sexed but will do so very shortly, I am just wondering about its pink/cream feet and what would be causing that?
Here's a link to a photo I took today in this crappy melbourne weather, really made the tail and flights look real dark after some rain.
http://www.flickr.com/x/t/0096009/photo ... 757167852/

Hi, the pink/cream feet would be from the Cinnamon- I am tending to think that an SL Edged (without other mutations) bird has feet lighter than Wildtype, but darker than Ino- contrary to what is listed in psittacula-world.
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