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mavislim
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nembie q's need advice

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hi im new to this site i just picked up a yellow 2month old hen this morning and brought her home (from all the yellows the guy had this one chose me the others wouldnt come next to me )
and introduced her to my male nearly 2yr old blue named mavis

my question is,at first mavis whisling making noises etc showing happines i guess then all of sudden his on the attack mode trying to bite raising his head feather which he does when his angry.

im kinda upset at his reaction also im wondering asking what can i do so he wont wont bother her ( mavis is tamed and love the house )
is this a normal behaviour at first introduction or should i be concern
does it seem like mavis is being dominating against her even though she is 2month

all answers appriciated
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I wouldn't worry about the initial reaction. This is probably normal. You need to give the birds time to get used to each other. There is no guarantee though that they will get along. IRNs in general, learn to tolerate each other... they're never as close to their mates as, say, African Lovebirds... they're much more independent. They will show most interest in each other during breeding season. Some breeders go so far as to keep the male and female separate until breeding season.

Generally, it is recommended when you bring a bird home to keep them completely away from each other for a month to quarantine them. Having said that, I didn't do that with mine. However, I did keep their cages separated (in different rooms) for a bit and did not let them out at the same time.

Next, I moved their cages side by side and let them interact. A lot of the time, they just let the other go about their business but occasionally they'd come close to each other. Some times they'd sit close to each other.

We eventually put them in the same cage together after we'd had many days of good out-of-cage play time with them.

If your blue bird is used to going wherever it likes in the house it may mean that you are going to need to either restrict her access to the new one or supervise how time out of the cage and reduce it for a while.

I was in a similar situation to you. We brought home our yellow boy, Charlie, when Janey (our blue girl) was 1 year old. A year later, and they get along reasonably well... although Charlie sometimes chases Janey around and tries to bite her... but that doesn't happen all of the time. He feeds her and she feeds him every day and there is the occasional attempt at preening each other.

Good luck with your new addition!

Ellie.
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hi thanks for the advice
went out and bought a small cage this morning going to follow ur advice

when ever she is inside she wont stop shaking her head up n down constantly im trying to understand why she, does this can u pls explain if u have the undestanding to this ?
also she thinks im her mother (how bloody adorable even the toughest guy heart would melt to that ) trying to get food from my mouth
i chewed some seeds but she wouldnt actually take it out but paying close attention in the cage she does seperate sunflower seed and eat it now im even more confused but happy
should i buy some hand reared food if so which one or can i make it home??

keep in mind shes only 2month, im still new to baby birds all my birds i haved has been kinda matured i guess
i feel like i did a mistake by purchasing this beauty
but want it to b apart of my family...

as for mavis for the first time he bit me trying to get out of my hand into her cage so i gave him the NO, hit his beak back in cage no play treatment wat a terror he has became
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mavislim wrote:when ever she is inside she wont stop shaking her head up n down constantly im trying to understand why she, does this can u pls explain if u have the undestanding to this ?
This is your bird telling you it wants you to feed it. It thinks you are its parent, so it is telling you it's hungry.
mavislim wrote:also she thinks im her mother (how bloody adorable even the toughest guy heart would melt to that ) trying to get food from my mouth
i chewed some seeds but she wouldnt actually take it out but paying close attention in the cage she does seperate sunflower seed and eat it now im even more confused but happy
I wouldn't recommend trying to give the baby food that's been in your mouth. We have different bacteria in our mouth than birds do and it could make the baby sick.
mavislim wrote: should i buy some hand reared food if so which one or can i make it home??
That's probably a good idea. Try getting it to eat off a plastic spoon. They may have special spoons at the pet store when you buy the food. Have a good, long chat with the person at the pet store about how to do it.
mavislim wrote:as for mavis for the first time he bit me trying to get out of my hand into her cage so i gave him the NO, hit his beak back in cage no play treatment wat a terror he has became
Personally, I don't recommend hitting a bird as this will induce a fear response. There are threads on this forum on how to deal with biting. I suggest you do a search. It's also good to remember that biting is one way a bird has to communicate with you... so you shouldn't take it personally!

Good luck!

Ellie.
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wow thanks for the feed
it means a lot to know where im going wrong at this stage.

bought the hand reard food does it really have to be at the "required 38degree temp?? as stated on the pack (bought avione if i remember,any good)
and the store guy was kinda an arrogant pr@#$
not wanting to feed me info "i dont know, i dont know"
im like mate u running a bus how can u not know if i did that to my customers i wouldnt make a single $
i dont want to name the bus due to privacy

its not a hit more of a tap on the beak, im not trying to condone it.
since i got him not once he has taken blood from me he does occasioanlly nibble my fingers and ear lobes
but never taken a chunk out, just yesterday. i can live with that one bite lol but my mother he love to bite her wen ever he can, strange but hey beautifull creatures. ill do a search on here

once again thanks
one last should i worm her i have the liquid worming med ?
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mavislim wrote:bought the hand reard food does it really have to be at the "required 38degree temp?? as stated on the pack (bought avione if i remember,any good)
I'm not sure... I would imagine if your bird isn't really little, it wouldn't be as important as if it would be when its in the nest. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this one. Cocoschick just posted a video of her chicks handfeeding here:
http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... 11&t=10643
I imagine your bird is way older than these little guys, but I thought it might help you understand what to do to do the hand feeding. I notice that her spoon is a metal one and the edges are turned up, sort of like a shovel. I haven't handraised birds myself yet, so I can't tell you a lot.

There is some good information about hand weaning and feeding at this thread:
http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... ?f=1&t=799
mavislim wrote:and the store guy was kinda an arrogant pr@#$
not wanting to feed me info "i dont know, i dont know"
im like mate u running a bus how can u not know if i did that to my customers i wouldnt make a single $
i dont want to name the bus due to privacy
Sorry to hear the buy wasn't helpful. Maybe time to find a different store.
mavislim wrote:once again thanks
one last should i worm her i have the liquid worming med ?
We asked our vet about worming our birds. Because we keep them inside and they don't come into contact with any wild birds, he didn't seem to think they needed it. However, if you do want to worm them, just make sure you follow the guidelines on the pack. When I was a kid I bred peachfaces in an aviary and I used to worm them.

Best wishes.

Ellie.
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mavislim wrote:wow thanks for the feed
it means a lot to know where im going wrong at this stage.

bought the hand reard food does it really have to be at the "required 38degree temp?? as stated on the pack (bought avione if i remember,any good)

one last should i worm her i have the liquid worming med ?
Yes, it does need to be the proper temperature. This prevents bacteria from taking hold. I am not familiar with that brand. To get the temperature correct, use a meat or candy thermometer. You heat the water and then add the formula to it. The temperature on the bag is the temperature at feeding, after mixing. There was more information in the link Ellie provided.

At only two months of age, I wouldn't think she was properly weaned though it could happen. If you want to feed, cup feeding would probably be best for you. http://www.parrotpro.com/cupfeed.php

How is she eating otherwise?

No, you do not need to worm your young bird.

Capitalization and punctuation would be appreciated, thank you. :)
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Well at this stage, nearly being a week on comming sunday.

She is doing mighty fine eating the formula i prepare, she also love eating pears,apple and the parrot mix even though she find's the barely hard to crack but sunflower seeds are an ease for her, having said that bluey get's jealous and trying to steal the food from my hand also mimics her movement and sounds lol.

Funny thing i noticed is that since having the baby around bluey want more more attention (which is natural) even going to the extent of producing more sound's trying to talk and copying our laugh's so im glad to see this behaviour

@melika
didnt know caps and puncs were that important! like being back at school lol

cheers
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I am glad she is doing so well- and yup jealousy works wonders!

:lol: Aye, school does actually teach us important things! I find it difficult to read on a computer screen as it is; great walls of text or text without beginning or end is even more challenging! Sad to say, I often pass over poorly written posts as I cannot read enough without getting a headache and therefore cannot offer help.
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Hi mavislim

Glad to hear that both your birds are going well. Good job!

Ellie.
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