I just got 2 ringneck. 1 is green with no visible ring (i was told that was the female). The other is yellow with a bright red or orange ring and a little bit white with the orange. I noticed that the yellow was mounting the green, so I got a nesting box. She keeps going in and out of it.
Is it ok to breed 2 different colors? I put corn husk and some paper towels in the box. She through the paper towel out but not the corn.
I am so clueless to what I am doing. I am surfing the web for any info I can find. This web sight is the best yet. Anyone with any usefull info would be nice.
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Re: 2 different colors
asayre wrote:I just got 2 ringneck. 1 is green with no visible ring (i was told that was the female). The other is yellow with a bright red or orange ring and a little bit white with the orange. I noticed that the yellow was mounting the green, so I got a nesting box. She keeps going in and out of it.
Is it ok to breed 2 different colors? I put corn husk and some paper towels in the box. She through the paper towel out but not the corn.
I am so clueless to what I am doing. I am surfing the web for any info I can find. This web sight is the best yet. Anyone with any usefull info would be nice.
Sounds like the yellow is lutino thay are sex-linked morph this means if you breed them.The yellow babys will be all female.And the green babys will be all male.
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I don't think it should pose any direct threat.
Here's some help on breeding Indian Ringnecks>> | http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww57e.htm |.
Here's some help on breeding Indian Ringnecks>> | http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww57e.htm |.
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hi, you said you have a green female and a yellow male irn. Stop wasting your time!!!. They wont breed. From Experience myself which i had not so long ago they wont mate if they are different colors. You can sure be positive that they wont and never mate. Take the word from me ,I experienced it and it was frustrating to find out too. Only advise i would give you would be to buy another IRN that has the same color. If you sure want to get good producing IRN if i was you i would buy a (male) green IRN for your female. Green colors always with no doubt will mate each other and start breeding very fast if they like each other. Since there is complication with the other odd colors like the yellow male you have. A pair of only (GREEN) IRN will be the best choice. Hope that helps.
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Do IRN's really care about their colours???
I have a green male IRN and I just love him to bits (despite his determining to stay in his cage). He was bred in an aviary of green males and a yellow female. I now have him in a small aviary size cage inside and would like to possibly breed with him. He is somewhere between 3 and 5 yrs old, so mature enough to breed. I read somewhere that if I was to put a different colour apart from green or yellow that it would not be a happy pair of birds. Does anyone know if this is true? Also because my Billy is mature, will I need to be careful what age female I buy for him?
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I'm not sure as to the colors of my two IRN's parents, but in their paticular batch there were 2 Blues, 1 Green and 1 Grey. The lady I bought them from said that it was only her second Grey she's seen from breeding IRN's. She did mention how she may have to keep it for breeding to see what other colors could possibly show from that.
Now, I don't know a damned thing about breeding, but to me it's common sense:
Sometimes the birds plainly just don't like each other, therefore will not breed. You may have to try a few times to find a pair of birds that work well together. Think of it in the way of dating. You usually have to date a few people before you find that one you were really looking for. You may be that rare person that finds the "right" one the first time, but it is pretty rare. The same goes for birds, the only thing is you have to watch them so they don't tear each other to pieces.
That's the best advice I can give you.
Now, I don't know a damned thing about breeding, but to me it's common sense:
Sometimes the birds plainly just don't like each other, therefore will not breed. You may have to try a few times to find a pair of birds that work well together. Think of it in the way of dating. You usually have to date a few people before you find that one you were really looking for. You may be that rare person that finds the "right" one the first time, but it is pretty rare. The same goes for birds, the only thing is you have to watch them so they don't tear each other to pieces.
That's the best advice I can give you.
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different colors do mate, but from what i read is hardder to mate certain colors. and females ( liek females of any species) are pain in the butt during certain times. 
don't get mad ladies
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don't get mad ladies
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Obviously they like one another, else the male wouldn't be mounting and the female wouldn't be accepting.
Sometimes you can tell the sex of the chicks when one parent is carrying a sex linked trait, but that involves genetics which can get complicated. Especially if the male is carrying the lutino gene, which we do not know. If you KNOW what each parent comes from for a few generations, you can have a good idea of what you get. Otherwise it's a shot in the dark.
Instead of corn husks, fill the nestbox either one-third or halfway with Pine shavings, compacted with your fist. Make a little hollow just to encourage the famale to change it to her liking. Not only will she have fun arranging her quarters, she'll be able to nibble the shavings to sawdust while she's incubating. This is pretty much the procedure for most species of parrot, though I've dealt mosly with africans.
When she begins to make the nest her own, shoving around shavings, then you know she's settling in.
Don't stress out too much, just relax and enjoy your parrots. If you can, check your classifieds for IRN breeders and call them up, make a list of questions beforehand. Most breeders would be glad to help. They may even let you come by and see first hand what it takes to breed IRNs. ^_^
Sometimes you can tell the sex of the chicks when one parent is carrying a sex linked trait, but that involves genetics which can get complicated. Especially if the male is carrying the lutino gene, which we do not know. If you KNOW what each parent comes from for a few generations, you can have a good idea of what you get. Otherwise it's a shot in the dark.
Instead of corn husks, fill the nestbox either one-third or halfway with Pine shavings, compacted with your fist. Make a little hollow just to encourage the famale to change it to her liking. Not only will she have fun arranging her quarters, she'll be able to nibble the shavings to sawdust while she's incubating. This is pretty much the procedure for most species of parrot, though I've dealt mosly with africans.
When she begins to make the nest her own, shoving around shavings, then you know she's settling in.
Don't stress out too much, just relax and enjoy your parrots. If you can, check your classifieds for IRN breeders and call them up, make a list of questions beforehand. Most breeders would be glad to help. They may even let you come by and see first hand what it takes to breed IRNs. ^_^
Re: 2 different colors
Sounds like the yellow is lutino thay are sex-linked morph this means if you breed them.The yellow babys will be all female.And the green babys will be all male.
This is ABSOLUTELY true. If you want to know about sex-linked genetics read on.. its also a very useful way of breeding birds where their sex is visually distinguishable in the nest. I have done it!
Lutino is carried on the X chromosome only. Girls have two X chromosomes (XX) and males only one (XY). Lutino is also dominant to green.
This means that if you breed a female bird who is green (XX), and a male bird who is yellow (X Y), the male is carrying the yellow on his single X chromosome.
when babies are made, they inherit one sex chromosome from their mum (X or X) and one from their dad (X or Y). if they inherit X's from both parents they are female (X X) and if they inherit an X from mum and a Y from dad they are male (XY).
This means that any male chick has inherited a Y chromosome from their father. Remember the yellow colour is only carried on the X chromosome. This means that the baby MUST be green, because they have inherited their dad's Y chromosome, not the X. Baby boys are XY.
Conversely, all females MUST be yellow, because they have inherited an X from their mum, and an X from their dad. Remember their dad has lutino on his X chromosome, and because lutino is dominant to the green X from their mum, the chicks will all be yellow.
This is also the reason why you cant have a female green split lutino. If the female was carrying the lutino X she would be yellow, because it is dominant to the green X.
Phew I hope you can understand that, i'm a genetics tutor in my spare time..
This green female, yellow male mating is a 'special case' and dosent apply to other colors or other sexes (eg a yellow female and green male dosent work the same) however, in this special case it DOES determine the sex and colour of the chicks very easily. This is how I bred my own green male ringneck (Raja) who I still have today.
I would highly recommend anyone who wants to breed ringnecks as pets to try this method. You can ensure that the new owners know the sex of the bird without DNA or surgical sexing, and your baby girls will have the popularity bonus of being georgous blonds!
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Got a little bored so I started reading back-issue posts. This particular thread caught my attention since it is quite interesting. I don't mean to discredit anyone but I may need to correct imprecise information.
This is apropos for humans but the reverse is true with birds. With all due respect to Carly, cocks have two chromosomes (XX) and hens have one X and one Y, or simply XY. Avian geneticists sometimes use the alternate letters Z and W in place of X and Y, respectively, to differentiate between mammals and birds.
The Lutino (Yellow) mutation is NOT dominant over the wild-type Green. The reason why the hen offsprings are all Lutinos on the above pairing is not because Lutino is dominant over Green. Consider the fact that the Y chromosome is a relatively smaller chromosome and is not know to contain any genetic information. Given that the hen babies inherited the sex-linked Lutino gene from their Lutino father (X) and the Y gene from their mother, there is no color trait present in the Y chromosome to block out the Yellow color in the X chromosome inherited from the father!
This is true for all other sex-linked mutations such as Lacewings and Cinnamons. All you need is one sex-linked gene on the X chromosome (from the father) to determine the phenotype (appearance) of the baby hens. This is also the reason why there are no hens split to sex-linked mutations. If a hen carries one sex-linked gene, it will have to manifest it in its appearance since no other gene can block it out.
So you ask me what's the Y chromosome used for then? Its sole purpose is to determine the sex of the babies, Mother Nature's own clever way of ensuring that there is an ultimate equal percentage of males and females in any given species.
Girls have two X chromosomes (XX) and males only one (XY).
This is apropos for humans but the reverse is true with birds. With all due respect to Carly, cocks have two chromosomes (XX) and hens have one X and one Y, or simply XY. Avian geneticists sometimes use the alternate letters Z and W in place of X and Y, respectively, to differentiate between mammals and birds.
Lutino is also dominant to green.
The Lutino (Yellow) mutation is NOT dominant over the wild-type Green. The reason why the hen offsprings are all Lutinos on the above pairing is not because Lutino is dominant over Green. Consider the fact that the Y chromosome is a relatively smaller chromosome and is not know to contain any genetic information. Given that the hen babies inherited the sex-linked Lutino gene from their Lutino father (X) and the Y gene from their mother, there is no color trait present in the Y chromosome to block out the Yellow color in the X chromosome inherited from the father!
This is true for all other sex-linked mutations such as Lacewings and Cinnamons. All you need is one sex-linked gene on the X chromosome (from the father) to determine the phenotype (appearance) of the baby hens. This is also the reason why there are no hens split to sex-linked mutations. If a hen carries one sex-linked gene, it will have to manifest it in its appearance since no other gene can block it out.
So you ask me what's the Y chromosome used for then? Its sole purpose is to determine the sex of the babies, Mother Nature's own clever way of ensuring that there is an ultimate equal percentage of males and females in any given species.
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Jaie,
Where on earth did you get that drivel?!
I have never heard such rot in my life.
I am not getting into a big discussion here - simply READ a proper biology textbook, or two. A first year university tome will do. Go to the section on Mendelian genetics and really read it.
And to all those worried about breeding two different coloured birds - so long as you have a male and a female of breeding age and they have been acclimatised to each other, they will breed.
I have nine pairs, including lutino to blue, grey green to albino, creamino to silver etc. all breeding quite happily.
Thanks for reading this.
LP in Oz.
Where on earth did you get that drivel?!
I have never heard such rot in my life.
I am not getting into a big discussion here - simply READ a proper biology textbook, or two. A first year university tome will do. Go to the section on Mendelian genetics and really read it.
And to all those worried about breeding two different coloured birds - so long as you have a male and a female of breeding age and they have been acclimatised to each other, they will breed.
I have nine pairs, including lutino to blue, grey green to albino, creamino to silver etc. all breeding quite happily.
Thanks for reading this.
LP in Oz.
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Thank you for your help and welcome, however your tone is a little off for this board.
We practice respect and acceptance. Your tone doesnt imply that so please check that. I understand that words sometimes read differently than meant so lets try to remember that.
This is a great place, happy and friendly people. I hope you enjoy your time with us.
Thank you for your help and welcome, however your tone is a little off for this board.
We practice respect and acceptance. Your tone doesnt imply that so please check that. I understand that words sometimes read differently than meant so lets try to remember that.
This is a great place, happy and friendly people. I hope you enjoy your time with us.
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