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spiderweb
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hey im webster and i breed other birds but just started the ringnecks last year, doesnt anyone know what colours i will get out of these pairs.

Blue male with a lime lacwing/blue lacwing female
lacwing male with a white/blue female
silver male with a green female
grey fallow male with a blue female
silverturqouise male with a turqousie female
white male with green/blue female.

I know yellow and yellow makes yellow. last thing what male would you buy to pair up with a skyblue cinnanom female. thank you very much
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HI,My name is David I am a breeder of ringneck mutations and I am only 16. What would I buy to pair up with a female skyblue cinnamon? I would buy a violet blue male or a cobalt male.


Blue male with a lime lacwing/blue lacwing female

1.0 blue x 0.1 pallid cinnamon /blue

% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 blue /pallid-cinnamon
50.0% 1.0 green /blue pallid-cinnamon

% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 blue
50.0% 0.1 green /blue




lacwing male with a white/blue female

1.0 pallid x 0.1 blue ino

% from all 1.0
100.0% 1.0 pallidIno /blue

% from all 0.1
100.0% 0.1 pallid /blue




silver male with a green female

1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon x 0.1 green

% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 grey(sf) green /blue cinnamon
50.0% 1.0 green /blue cinnamon

% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 grey(sf) green cinnamon /blue
50.0% 0.1 green cinnamon /blue




grey fallow male with a blue female

1.0 grey(sf) blue clearhead_fallow x 0.1 blue

% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /clearhead_fallow
50.0% 1.0 blue /clearhead_fallow

% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue /clearhead_fallow
50.0% 0.1 blue /clearhead_fallow




silverturqouise male with a turqousie female

1.0 grey(sf) turquoise(parblue) cinnamon x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)

% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 grey(sf) turquoise(parblue) /cinnamon
50.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue) /cinnamon

% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 grey(sf) turquoise(parblue) cinnamon
50.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue) cinnamon




white male with green/blue female.

1.0 blue ino x 0.1 green /blue

% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 blue /ino
50.0% 1.0 green /blue ino

% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 blue ino
50.0% 0.1 ino /blue


:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :D :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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hey david, dam i cant believe you 16 and know so much. im 23 and i mainly breed african greys, black winged jardines, amazons etc. thanks with your help. can you explain how my grey fallow will give me clearhead babies?
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Hi,
Lol, I am sure you will get there =D. When you said a grey fallow, I didnt know if it is a clearhead fallow or a bronze fallow. I am now guessing you have a bronze fallow. If possible can u post a picture?
thanks
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ill take a picture tomorrow for you, i dont think its in the bronze or clearhead family hey, the guy i bought it from said its a grey fallow. what ringnecks do you have?
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cool, I look forward to your photo.
My ringnecks
.Violet blue hen paired with blue cock
.Pastel lacewing hen paired with Violet blue lacewing cock
.Blue hen paired with lutino cock
.Green hen with Green cock
.Cobalt tuquoise cock

I want to go into pieds or whwts soon :)
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the guy that sold me this male said its a grey fallow is that correct
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Hi,
It really looks like a normal grey. I am not to sure as fallow might have another meaning that I dont know. :D
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the head is a dark green colour and the chest is grey yet the back is a mixture you could say between the dark green and grey and the tips of the wings have white spots on. im no expert so help me hahaha :D
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Hi,
I have searched high and low for the answer but still no luck. could it be split fallow by any chance?
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it could be man, im not sure the guy had it on the net here in south africa, maybe i can copy his email and paste it on here for you to read
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yes you right hahaha my bad it is a split haha silly me here is the email he sent me

Hi Webster

I do have the blue /cinnamon ;grey /fallow turq and the price is R350 each . All are matured , I have bred the blue cinnamon, and the grey/fallow turquoise is 3.5 years old he will breed this year. please let me know ASAP,because the birds are going quickly.

Thank you very much.

:) :) :) so i got a grey/fallow turq. please redo the test on that pair for me man, i appericate all the trouble.
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Haha, no problem

grey/fallow turq with a blue female

1.0 grey(sf) blue /clearhead_fallow x 0.1 blue

% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /clearhead_fallow
25.0% 1.0 blue
25.0% 1.0 blue /clearhead_fallow

% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue /clearhead_fallow
25.0% 0.1 blue
25.0% 0.1 blue /clearhead_fallow


I think it is impossible for a grey to be split turquoise? I am not really sure

Glad to help :D , David
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you must let me know where i can see pictures of all the different ringneck mutations that yyou mentioned so i can see how my babies would look like when my pairs breed. My Black winged jardines got one egg fertile and my red sided electus is also got one fertile, im excited, cant wait to handrear those babies. Last year i did 4 yellow ringnecks, blue lacwing and 2 skyblue cinanom, plus 2 derbyans and a goffin cockatoo that i named rihanna hahaha. my african greys didnt do very well last year. I live in south africa in the beautiful city of Durban. thanks again man :D
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Hi,
All your mutations and there offspring are all on this website. That sounds like alot to hand rear =D. I am only handrearing hopfully is 2 violets 1 blue and about 3 green ringnecks.
http://home.wanadoo.nl/psittaculaworld/ ... aWorld.htm
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what is the price of violets? what did you pair your one with?
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HI,
My violet is 2 years old and is mature. She cost me $850 AUD.
I would say a mature violet would cost $800 to $1000 AUD.
An 09 or 10 this year would cost $500 to $700 AUD.

This year I have paired my violet up with a pure blue male. The reason for this is so all my violet a blue babies will be pure and have no splits in them.
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hey dude my green female and silver male pair got one egg dam the rest just mating no eggs yet. My black winged jardines got one baby that was born today and my electus baby should be born tomorrow. Your ringnecks give you eggs? :lol: :mrgreen:
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Hi, congratz man
hope all goes well with your ringnecks babies. I think my violet ringneck is going to lay within 3 days from today. and my other pairs I think in about 1 to 2 weeks. :D
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hi their ....
just a question my hen she has layed an egg yesterday and her breathing pattern has changed is this normal ?? and also can she get egg bounded with the second egg ??
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I have no idea to both of them questions sorry, but i notice when my ringneck hens lay eggs she starts to breath hard when I look in. Maybe some1 on this site may know. or take it to an avian vet. sorry i cant be much help :?
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Its all good my hen has layed her second egg and she is ok woohhhooo yaaayyy am so excited i have been breeding birds but this is my first time breeding ringnecks .....
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dont worry man, i didnt breed ringnecks either until i saw how much fun my mate was having experimenting with the different colours and when you get babies from your pairs to guess what colours you will get out. Im still learning the names of the different mutation. What is the most eggs a ringneck female can lay?
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hi david, thanks man my black winged jardine baby is very strong, got some sad news to tell you, my electus baby died in the shell, i have no idea why thou. :( the lacwing female has 2 eggs and the green female has 2 eggs as well. My other pairs are mating. I hope you have a good season man, must put pics of the violet babies for me to see :mrgreen:
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Hi, sorry for the sad news :cry: . I still havent got any eggs from my violet pair yet but every time I look outside the male is mounting her :lol: . they just cant get enough of each other. I hope to seee eggs from her soon. And I will post pics and I am hand raising all the babies all my pairs produce.

How many eggs can a hen lay? with one cluch normally 1-7, but I have heard amazing stories were there has been 11. but if you take the eggs out as soon as they are layed, about 3 days after the full cluch and incubat them yourself in a machine, You may get 3 cluches from one female which is like 10- 20 :shock:
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how many ringneck pairs you got david? can you explain to me what does ino mean example you wrote blue ino and pallidino? i cant wait to see your violet babies man, what you think of the blue rainbow mutation and do you think 600 rand is a good price?
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:P hi, Ino is the albino/lutino gene. when a bird is ino, it has features of an albino for example, red eyes, yellow or white feathering. I have 4 ringneck pairs this year. if you wanna have a look at my pairs here is a link, http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... =5&t=10800
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you got great birds dave, the violet lacewing babies should also be interesting to see how they look like hey haha. :mrgreen: so would you say rainbow is a type of lacewing? and have you seen a blue rainbow and would you say R600 is a good price for one of them?
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Hi,
I turquiose pallid ino is a rainbow. I dont think there is such thing as a blue rainbow. You can get a turquiose blue ino pallid which looks more like a pastel rainbow. I am not sure what currency that is as I am 16 :) dont know too much haha. but here a bird like that would cost $200 untamed.
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:mrgreen: dude you make me laugh haha Rands is the South African currency. I would actually like people to send us pictures of the different pallids, pallidino and rainbows that they either own as a pet or breeding with :) and to explain to me what colour combinations are best to use to produce those colours with?
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:lol: yer.. There are so many mutations in pallids. just name any mutation and add lacewing. haha
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hahahaha :lol: david haha you caught me there man. how are you birds doing? out of 6 eggs of my ringnecks 4 are fertile so excited. My green female with the silver male and my lime lacwing/blue lacewing female with the blue male haha. Where did lacewing get its name from?
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Hi,
:D I still have no eggs, but I know she will lay soon... I hope :? Lacewing ringnecks. I have no clue where they got that name from. I could be because of the lace in there wings? :lol:
also thats great news for you and your birds! :) I wish my birds had eggs, all they are doing is doing it :evil:
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hey guys :) I'm totally new to ringnecks. i owned a grey female 2 years ago, although she flew away :(...and just adopted a green male...all i know about IRN mutations is, green, blue, grey, albino and lutino haha! So you're both ahead of me! Is there a site or thread you could recommend to learn the mutations with photos also? :)

What mutations could I get from a green male? (based on a hens colour...i currently have no hen but wouldn't mind trying to breed him one day). Thanks! :)
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Hi,
welcome :) I am so sorry for your birds death. Here is a site for most of the mutations and ways of getting that mutation. http://home.wanadoo.nl/psittaculaworld/ ... aWorld.htm

as you have a green male ringneck, if you breed him with any mutation you will only recive green splits to the mutation you breed him to.
for example:
Green male x blue hen

% from all 1.0
100.0% 1.0 green /blue

% from all 0.1
100.0% 0.1 green /blue


But.. :) if you breed your green male to mutatiions from the following.
.Violet blue
.grey
.dark factor
.dom pied

you will recive a green mixed one of those colours.
e.g.
green male with a violet blue hen
gives you a greenviolet blue.

Hope this makes sence. I am only 16 and my knowledge is very limited.
any more questions just ask :P
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Oh wow, thanks! It makes 'some' sense...i have a small idea on mutation talk from budgies...but i never realised that IRN's were just as intriquite!

Thankyou for the link :D

Do you know much about cages?? I have a thread asking for advice on a certain cage...
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david you will get eggs man, just hang in there, my yellow pair of ringnecks also just gave me eggs. About cages, i got my parrots in flight cages but my ringnecks are in hanging cages that i have built myself. :mrgreen: david can it be possible if a female ringneck can be unfertile since my silver turquiose male is mating with the turquiose female to the point he is biting her hair off her head but still she hasnt laid an egg. Should i take her to the vet to check if she has eggs inside her?
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hi,
I would say if its been 4 weeks since the first time the male mounted the female and there has been no eggs layed, then take her to the vet.
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:D
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Hi

I have a turquoise color male almos powder light blue and I got a female yellow color and I would like to knock if you can help me to find out what colors can I get front this combination....
spiderweb wrote:hey im webster and i breed other birds but just started the ringnecks last year, doesnt anyone know what colours i will get out of these pairs.

Blue male with a lime lacwing/blue lacwing female
lacwing male with a white/blue female
silver male with a green female
grey fallow male with a blue female
silverturqouise male with a turqousie female
white male with green/blue female.

I know yellow and yellow makes yellow. last thing what male would you buy to pair up with a skyblue cinnanom female. thank you very much
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Hi I have just joined, dont want to hijack this topic but I have a green cock and a blue hen who have just hatched a red eyed lutino and a grey. Any clues to sex and/or splits of parents

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ottarr wrote:Hi I have just joined, dont want to hijack this topic but I have a green cock and a blue hen who have just hatched a red eyed lutino and a grey. Any clues to sex and/or splits of parents

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Hey ottarr! Any chance your green bird is actually a Grey-green? A Grey-green/ blue ino paired with a blue hen will give you Grey-green, Green, Blue, and Grey males and Grey-green, Green, Blue, Grey, Albino, and Lutino females.
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