I have 5 young feathering up now. so far 2 of them are showing a "brown color" Odd it is, experienced breeders have a go at suggesting what these 2 birds might turn out to be.
Cock blue/??? split unknown
Hen: Creamino masking violet/??? split unknown
this pair was acquired this year
So far 4 young show some color: 2 "brown" and 2 violets, 5th too young
I could only guess that anything close to existing colors would be cinnamon so could it be cock split for cinnamon? will get pictures as soon as i can.
without any splits we know that i should have had only 4 colors: blue, violet & pastels of the 2 colors, so i guess there's more to it that meets the eye.
How old are they? As in, what level of feather are the young? They arent creamino birds / albino birds that have collected trace colouring from the box / nesting material throughout?
Possible the cock is split ino without knowing, and they are just dirty feathers? How clean is the nesting material etc... might give an indication?
no dirt, they are being hand-raised
the feathers are just starting to form, barely be able to tell.
they are just over 3 weeks old
i am just thinking cinnamon can throw towards brown.
a friend hand rears my young and i'm going there tomorrow to take some pics . otherwise tuesday wed. as i am going away for the weekend
Fah, could it be possible that the creamino hen is masking violet as well as grey??? violet as i said it does as i have 2 young. i had a look at the 2 young today, although too early to tell they could turn out to be grey????
masking 2 colors that would be s-thing... will update on color next week once i get back from "holiday"
Its perfectly possible. And considering there are actually a suprising amount of creamino's out there masking grey, its quite possible someone accidently had a rather nasty pairing, and that might have come from such a set of parents.
Look at this relatively common pairing.
A violet pallid cock bird (quite offten actually a pallid ino which in this case we are going to asume, though lets say the breeder didnt know).
Is put with a creamino hen masking grey (also quite common).
(As much as this is a bad pairing, there are breeders out there who dont care what their young carry genetically, so long as they look the part. And a pallid cock to a ino hen (hoping the pallid isnt pallidIno) guarantees all pallid young, and cheaper than two pallid birds put together. Though genetically, this is poor form, its regularly done. A pure pallid cock bird is quite a prize in my opinion.)
One of their young could very well be a grey turquoiseBlue voilet ino hen.
Would unfortunately be a bird that is quite well... unfortunate from a breeding perspective.
(this is why I have never purchased violet's and other more expensive birds from people who do not maintain serious records)
Now that violet is becoming quite cheap ($600-650) more reckless or new breeders who really dont understand what they are doing genetically are mixing all kinds of bad combinations.
(I would safely say over 75% of people selling average IRN's in Australia dont know much about genetics, if anything at all, and have no interest in learning... look at cockateils or budgies for example, cheap, anyone can put a pair together and have some fun, however if you are after specific blood lines or mutations, what looks the same as a bird for $15, might actually cost you $100... big difference really, for making sure its pure).
Some of the sellers who do know reasonably more than your average IRN breeder, are just sometimes wrong about the inheritance of the genes, many times I have gone to purchase something, then backed out due to the person giving me conflicting genetic information.
I have gone seriously off topic lol... sorry... just plainly, I hope they are violet, and not grey, just for your peace of mind and that it could be something interesting in the bird colouring.
Updates on the young: it seems that they will turn out just as pastel greys, or greys. i have to go and see them.
However, on the BROWN topic, what do you make of this one ?
this young bird is bred by a friend from the pair being: Green Pallid Grey(sf) X Blue Grey, splits unknown but we can assume anything: Cinnamon, etc.
It looks like a very pale Pallid Grey cinnamon to me.
I used to breed grey pallids that were basicly albino in appearance, which when aged to maturity, males carried the black neck ring, quite special in males to me, always liked the look of it.
I would guess that the male is possible a pallidIno? or has just thrown an incredibly pale cinnamon pallid grey baby? Just guessing really.
