color mutations questions
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color mutations questions
Hi I have a blue male and lutino female. What are the color mutations of the babies and is there a chance to get a lutino male?
If you assume that your birds are not split for anything (that they don't have any recessive traits that are not being visually expressed) the offspring will be as follows:
Males - 100% green split for blue and ino
Females - 100% green split for blue
Do you know anything about either bird's parents? If your male's mother were albino, for example, there is a possibility that your pair would produce lutino males.
Jim
Males - 100% green split for blue and ino
Females - 100% green split for blue
Do you know anything about either bird's parents? If your male's mother were albino, for example, there is a possibility that your pair would produce lutino males.
Jim
Hello Ty,
Blue male x Lutino hen will give you:
=50% Green/Blue/Lutino males
=50% Green/Blue hens
"/" denotes "split" which means the bird carries the gene but is not visual for it.
As you can see from the breeding results, most IRNs these days carry split genes and most-likely your parent birds carry them as well. As such, you may be able to breed Lutino males if your father bird is split to Lutino.
Blue/Lutino male x Lutino hen
=25% Green/Blue/Lutino males
=50% Lutino/Blue males and hens
=25% Green/Blue hens
The only way to find out for sure is to test breed them for a couple of seasons or so...
Hope that helps.
Blue male x Lutino hen will give you:
=50% Green/Blue/Lutino males
=50% Green/Blue hens
"/" denotes "split" which means the bird carries the gene but is not visual for it.
As you can see from the breeding results, most IRNs these days carry split genes and most-likely your parent birds carry them as well. As such, you may be able to breed Lutino males if your father bird is split to Lutino.
Blue/Lutino male x Lutino hen
=25% Green/Blue/Lutino males
=50% Lutino/Blue males and hens
=25% Green/Blue hens
The only way to find out for sure is to test breed them for a couple of seasons or so...
Hope that helps.
Jay
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Apologies to Ty who can always re-hijack the thread back 
Hey Ty,
Assuming your hen is also split to Blue or Turquoise, you can also produce Albino and Creamino cocks and hens. Lots of potential, which makes IRN color breeding quite exciting. Most of the time you'll never know what you're gonna get.
Hey Ty,
Assuming your hen is also split to Blue or Turquoise, you can also produce Albino and Creamino cocks and hens. Lots of potential, which makes IRN color breeding quite exciting. Most of the time you'll never know what you're gonna get.
Jay
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Yay ! I can help on this forum for a change
http://indianringneck.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2773
try reading through this link to learn how to post an image.
There are alot of other free picture hosting sites, eg. http://www.dropshots.com. Just google them if photobucket or dropshots aren't what you want, then follow the instructions in the thread about how to post the hosted picture to the forum.
P.S. I have a blue male and lutino female. Last season they produced all visually green, pretty sure two males and a female (one baby expired in the nest so not sure about that one).
I also do not know the parent birds backgrounds, and the hen is on eggs this season. So we shall see if there is any sign of nice genes this time.
I never though I would breed these birds, but after rescuing a lutino from just being released when she was unwanted, my tame blue male fell head over heals and nature pushed its way.
Good Luck with it all Ty. You are in very good hands with these two. Thanks for all the assistance you bring to the forum Jay and Jim.
http://indianringneck.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2773
try reading through this link to learn how to post an image.
There are alot of other free picture hosting sites, eg. http://www.dropshots.com. Just google them if photobucket or dropshots aren't what you want, then follow the instructions in the thread about how to post the hosted picture to the forum.
P.S. I have a blue male and lutino female. Last season they produced all visually green, pretty sure two males and a female (one baby expired in the nest so not sure about that one).
I also do not know the parent birds backgrounds, and the hen is on eggs this season. So we shall see if there is any sign of nice genes this time.
I never though I would breed these birds, but after rescuing a lutino from just being released when she was unwanted, my tame blue male fell head over heals and nature pushed its way.
Good Luck with it all Ty. You are in very good hands with these two. Thanks for all the assistance you bring to the forum Jay and Jim.
Angie
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South Gippsland Victoria 2 hours from Melbourne.
It is amazing here, at my mums, there are flocks of lorikeets that come to eat out of your hands, we sit out back at the barbeque table and two sulphurs come to visit, Fat Head (as we call one of them) will come down onto the table and eat with us.
Here we have so much bird life. Ocean Gulls, Nankeen Kestrels, humming birds in my herb garden, galahs, Cockatoo, all kinds of Rosella grace our yards, sparrow, wattle birds, bell birds, black birds that scratch around your feet while you garden, Magpies that wait for you to hand feed them worms, and when the Gang Gangs fly over head, what a beautiful sight it is.
Truly blessed here. Oh and I forgot to mention the cheeky butcher birds that love to steel anything beautiful for the nest, to impress their females (jewellery, silver foil anything sparkly and beautiful). The kookaburra that laugh at you, always seemingly at the right time.
Crows and raven, very intelligent birds. There is a place not far called King Parrot creek, beatiful and full of bird life, and the sound of the currawong, what a beautiful early morning call they have. just listen to this. Click the link below then close your eyes and picture a perfect, cool, early morning, sun just rising and creatures stirring, dew drop covered ferny forest surroundings ;
http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/images/ ... culina.mp3
Our owls, willy wag tails flitting around .. the list goes on and on.
If you want to hear more of our birds and their calls (like our kookaburra) check out this site.
http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/feature ... -songs.cfm
Enjoy !
Australia Rocks !
It is amazing here, at my mums, there are flocks of lorikeets that come to eat out of your hands, we sit out back at the barbeque table and two sulphurs come to visit, Fat Head (as we call one of them) will come down onto the table and eat with us.
Here we have so much bird life. Ocean Gulls, Nankeen Kestrels, humming birds in my herb garden, galahs, Cockatoo, all kinds of Rosella grace our yards, sparrow, wattle birds, bell birds, black birds that scratch around your feet while you garden, Magpies that wait for you to hand feed them worms, and when the Gang Gangs fly over head, what a beautiful sight it is.
Truly blessed here. Oh and I forgot to mention the cheeky butcher birds that love to steel anything beautiful for the nest, to impress their females (jewellery, silver foil anything sparkly and beautiful). The kookaburra that laugh at you, always seemingly at the right time.
Crows and raven, very intelligent birds. There is a place not far called King Parrot creek, beatiful and full of bird life, and the sound of the currawong, what a beautiful early morning call they have. just listen to this. Click the link below then close your eyes and picture a perfect, cool, early morning, sun just rising and creatures stirring, dew drop covered ferny forest surroundings ;
http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/images/ ... culina.mp3
Our owls, willy wag tails flitting around .. the list goes on and on.
If you want to hear more of our birds and their calls (like our kookaburra) check out this site.
http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/feature ... -songs.cfm
Enjoy !
Australia Rocks !
Angie
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Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins. {Pro 10:12}
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God Bless
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Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins. {Pro 10:12}
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God Bless
Do you get any of the black cockatoos aside from the Gang-Gangs?
And on a point vaguely related to the original post...Three green babies from a blue male and a lutino female isn't anywhere near enough babies to definitively conclude that you don't have some recessive gene that could express itself visually. If, for example, your blue male was split for ino you would still get all visually green birds in a clutch of three 12.5% of the time.
Jim
And on a point vaguely related to the original post...Three green babies from a blue male and a lutino female isn't anywhere near enough babies to definitively conclude that you don't have some recessive gene that could express itself visually. If, for example, your blue male was split for ino you would still get all visually green birds in a clutch of three 12.5% of the time.
Jim
Try resizing your pictures to 640x480. That size seem to work better on message boards.
Nice birds by the way. How old is the hen?
Nice birds by the way. How old is the hen?
Jay
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