SA deep violet blue sl edged
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indigoblue cock, "brilliant" blue hen and babies
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Tienie, I think there is more to this bird. The feet are pink and the body has a very strong greyish overtone. I would have guess clearhead fallow was also involved if I didn't know the parents of this bird. Thoughts?Carr.birds wrote:SA deep violet blue sl edged
Melissa, Tienie owns a few blue birds that shows a slightly brighter blue phenotype. And to me also looks a little bit darker. He is looking into what it could possibly be and this is the name he uses until he has figured out the mystery.Skyes_crew wrote:What is a brilliant blue?
No, I don't think cobalt. I'm thinking there is more to the mother as well. She is extremely grey for and edged-cinnamon. I can't put my finger on it, but maybe something like misty. I would think that misty would be lighter than this bird, though. So I'm not sure, really.Carr.birds wrote:Johan
Bred from SA deep blue sl edged/cinnamon? & violet cobalt sl edged-cinnamon hen. The 2 first round babies are cocks based on their phenotype and if not cinnamon must be split cinnamon. Do you think cobalt is involved. Second round babies are almost ready for a pic. One nice dark edged cock and purple edged hen
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Thanks Shey! Haven't visited the site in a while, but it's nice to see them. The dark body and lighter tail looks suspiciously like the ones over here, but these ones definitely produce a violet phenotype when combined with dark.sheyd wrote:Ron has bred Deep Green chicks!!!was starting to think that they didn't exist (visually) Is going to be fabulous to compare these against normals and darks
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I have seen various shades of nail and feet colour in the same mutations, IMO not a defining characteristic except in the obvious ones.Thank you for the pics ... but my questions remains : is the chick nails colour darker than his father's nails? If rigth now the colour is already darker it would point to Deep as a melanistic mutation. If not yet ... let's wait and see a bit later.
Fantastic news!trabots wrote:Shey, Ron assures me that is happening, hopefully alongside a Dark Green and a Violet Green as well.
Kappa, I apologise for not taking the time to go back to the start of the thread. Your bird has hardly any blue in the tail, even less than some wildtypes. Whatever the camera a Deep Green is going to show a darker than normal blue tail as did Ron's birds.My deep green is bred from 1 of Martin's birds, and as for images, I have posted some early on in this thread. Have I bred a df deep green? I thought I did, but I am unfortunately starting to have my doubts. The chick I have was very different early on ( also posted photos in this thread) but has "greened up" and lightened up as it has grown. I will wait until it and others (wild type green) fledge and tails grow out before I make closer comparisons.
That would be fantastic Kappa- looking forward to themKappa wrote:Hi Shey,
I will post some photos soon. My wildtype greens are about 4weeks now. The little buggers won't grow fast enough. It very frustrating.
I hate to be blunt, but whoever made the observation that the original deep green bird identified in the imported flock was barely a shade darker than the wildtype have a very different opinion of a shade to me. The way I understood it, it took acute powers of observation to identify the deep green from the other birds. The bird in this picture stands out like a sore eye. I am very very surprised at how dark this bird is.trabots wrote:Ron has just sent me images of a Deep Green with a Green, both 100% for sure. Kappa, I don't know what to say but your bird is significantly different.
SF Deep Green, Green
Me too and i am not convinced it is a deep. So what about a pic with a deep green, dark green and a normal green???Johan S wrote:I hate to be blunt, but whoever made the observation that the original deep green bird identified in the imported flock was barely a shade darker than the wildtype have a very different opinion of a shade to me. The way I understood it, it took acute powers of observation to identify the deep green from the other birds. The bird in this picture stands out like a sore eye. I am very very surprised at how dark this bird is.trabots wrote:Ron has just sent me images of a Deep Green with a Green, both 100% for sure. Kappa, I don't know what to say but your bird is significantly different.
SF Deep Green, Green
I am sick of this doubting. Read my lips, the bird was bred from a Deep. Ron is not a stunned mullet. I will tell him that he will not be believed until he puts it with a Dark Green also, he will probably say "tell them get mated". You wonder why he doesn't participate. You are referencing to 10th hand decades old information about the history of the original Deeps. Surely new photographic evidence supersedes the hearsay? Ron has the birds after all and therefore this evidence is 1st hand to me.Me too and i am not convinced it is a deep.
Hi Willy,trabots wrote:I am sick of this doubting. Read my lips, the bird was bred from a Deep. Ron is not a stunned mullet. I will tell him that he will not be believed until he puts it with a Dark Green also, he will probably say "tell them get mated". You wonder why he doesn't participate. You are referencing to 10th hand decades old information about the history of the original Deeps. Surely new photographic evidence supersedes the hearsay? Ron has the birds after all and therefore this evidence is 1st hand to me.Me too and i am not convinced it is a deep.
Bluntly I too am getting very worn out with all the crap being promulgated on this forum while ignoring the evidence. Some of you people are the avian equivalent of conspiracy geeks, always looking for an answer outside of reasonable analysis. Johan your blatant sarcasm on the other thread is what has put me over the top angry. I have been proved correct now in every topic I have carried out a running battle for, Pied rainbows, df Parblues, Deeps, %split of split x split offspring and now what every else already knew, Emerald IRNs are Parblues.![]()
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Stefan you are usually most reasonable and I am sorry this was your post that copped it. Johan you know where to stick those Deep feathers I sent you.