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No leg band...

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:39 pm
by xo Missi
I got my young lutino from a pet store called Pet Supermarket. She didn't have a leg band when I looked at her. I asked the people who work there and they said they have a new breeder they get birds from and she didn't come with leg bands. I was under the impression that all captive bred birds must have a leg band. Maybe I'm wrong? I'm worried she may be a captive caught baby now. Someone please confirm. Thanks! :(

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:20 pm
by Dani03
It depends on the state laws. Some states force breeders to put leg bands on and some don't. Then again there are breeders who don't care about that

Dani

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:54 pm
by Mikaela
I live in Tampa. Florida Law states sweetheart, YES... your bird should be banded.

I would have a long talk with that breeder and find out where the bird ACTUALLY came from OR WHY he isnt banding his chicks. This isnt cool either way.

Two scenarios going on here:

1. Bird came here from another state, but still should have been banded upon arrival and birds RARELY come in Florida because we do all the breeding here anyway. No point.

OR

He isnt following state law.

Either way, you deserve to know.

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:02 pm
by kimtoo
the bird I found was not banded either...I wondered about that too. So all breeders in the state of FL are required to band??

kim

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:10 pm
by Dani03
That's what it sounds like...

Dani

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:13 pm
by kimtoo
is there any way to get a band to band your own bird? My lovebirds do not have bands either and I think bands (especially diff colors) would help to identify them. Not nevessary on a daily basis but would sure be helpful when trying to capture a specific bird from the flight cage for whatever reason...kim

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:07 am
by julie
with the leg bands who actually controls the laws that say they have to be banded and what happens to say a pet store that sells them without a band.here we dont have to have them banded as far as i know, but dogs or cats have to be microchipped either when sold/given away or over the age of 6 months.we have to have a special licence to keep some birds.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:51 am
by Mikaela
The purpose for banding:

To be able to back track that chick to his breeder. Thats all its good for, nothing more, nothing less. If a chick isnt banded and has been displaced from the original breeder, then no purpose for banding it.

Leg bands ARE NOT USED for Identification except if a bird is found I happen to have my Baby's tag number but thats not what its used for and NOONE could get me my baby back with just that band info. At best, it could only help me prove she was my baby.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:07 am
by xo Missi
Hmm I got her from a pet store. DO you think I should go back to the store and see if they will give me the breeder information? Or since bands are just used to i.d. the breeder, should I not worry about it? I am worried now. I really wonder why she doesn't have one. Maybe I shouldn't be worried (I really do tend to *over* worry about everything)?

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:45 pm
by xo Missi
Anyone?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:02 am
by julie
i wouldnt worry too much.the pet shop probably thinks people will bypass them and go straight to the breeder if you know who the breeder is.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:16 am
by xo Missi
Okay. So in other words, the pet store possibly took the leg band off?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:05 am
by julie
i actually didnt think of that,i just thought that when you inquired about the band and they said they have a new breeder that they didnt tell you who the breeder was then because of that reason.but yeah it might be possible but i would imagine it wouldnt be easy to remove once on.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:16 am
by Mikaela
They wouldnt have taken a band off for two reasons:

All Floridian birds are to be sold banded from the breeder, TO TRACK THE BIRD BACK TO THE BEEDER, not for identification purposes.

And 2: Taking a leg band off is a HUGE risk, which is why our babies still have theirs on (that are banded).

All the lack of a band means is YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO TRACK THE BIRD TO THE BREEDER.

Thats all, nothing more nothing less.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:58 am
by xo Missi
Hmm...*over-thinking time*

I am just still so curious why the breeder didn't put the band on then. I guess I will never know!! My Baby is a lil illegal thing being sold with no band here in Florida, then :cry:

Oh well, we love her none-the-less, of course :lol:

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:02 am
by Mikaela
No punkin... dont feel that way.

Maybe the baby got here from like Jersey, where they dont have to band.

The bird is no more or less worthy than any of ours. Many of ours arent banded because its not law. Dont sweat it baby, really. Dont.

What, now, does it really matter where she came from? You're in love.

Youre a worry wart like I. Think of something else to worry about. I too need something hehe.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:05 am
by xo Missi
Okay, thank you Mikaela! You hit the nail on the head. I am such an anxious worrier! I won't worry about this anymore. My I love my lil chick chick leg band or not <3

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:31 am
by Mikaela
Well Im in Naples all the time. We'll do an anxiety seminar. heh

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:22 am
by xo Missi
You are in Naples all the time??? Let's meet up girl! What group do you do the seminars with? Is this bird or people anxiety?

Also, if we meet up, we'll invite Bird Crazy because she lives *fairly* close as well :D

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:30 am
by Dani03
*throws a tantrum*

No fair...I wanna go...it sucks having no members here in the San Fran Bay area...

*sighs and calms down*

Dani

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:58 am
by Mikaela
Absolutely, Baby loves to travel! We have an office here, Ft Myers (actually but its right up the road from you) and Jacksonville.

I was in Ft Myers 2 weeks ago for a week. I hang out while my man works so that would rock. Sitting in a hotel room alone for a week will drive you batty!

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:01 am
by xo Missi
Dani03 wrote:*throws a tantrum*

No fair...I wanna go...it sucks having no members here in the San Fran Bay area...

*sighs and calms down*

Dani


If I had money I'd buy you a plane ticket *hugs*

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:04 am
by xo Missi
Mikaela wrote:Absolutely, Baby loves to travel! We have an office here, Ft Myers (actually but its right up the road from you) and Jacksonville.

I was in Ft Myers 2 weeks ago for a week. I hang out while my man works so that would rock. Sitting in a hotel room alone for a week will drive you batty!


Oh my gosh it would be sooo much fun to have a gathering with you gals <3 Let me know next time you'll be around! I do have 2 jobs, office assistant at a law firm and part time at Petco (discounts *drool*) until I pay my credit card off (I mean, IF I ever pay my credit card off :roll:) So the schedule is kinda limited but I'm always free Sundays and Saturday evenings (well, thus far)

legs bands

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:56 am
by goro
more and more breeder are shying away from leg bands not due to it getting caught on to stuff liek cages, there is now a new chipping that is being implimented by vets on the right breast bone of the bird or in the shoulder, so bird being branded means nothing now days my irn is not branded.

goro