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Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:11 am
by Lyng1965
Hi,
Anyone have some photos of pastel emerald violet pieds on this site. Quite a debate on the subject on facebook
Thanks
Lyn

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:31 am
by Ring0Neck
Lyn,

Regarding the debate, before such claim is made (who has & what it looks like etc) i suggest you guys start with pics of the parents

The parents
One parent must carry the Turquoise mutation & the other parent Emerald, the only way to breed a TurquoiseEmerald
& work your way from there.

anyone claiming anything without this info i would consider weak evidence.

the only bird i have coming close to what you're asking is an unconfirmed "Turquoise" Emerald Pied

"Turquoise" = Certainly a Parblue mutation perhaps a variation of Turquoise named Saddleback, it'll be confirmed through breeding.

http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/SBE.JPG

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:38 am
by Lyng1965
Cock is emerald and hen is pastel violet pied. Genetics match. Seems like not
Many out there to compare at all

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:40 am
by Ring0Neck
No, there's not many of them. see pic i added to my first post in case you missed it.
did you see the parent's pic? and happy that it is so?

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:52 am
by Lyng1965
I think the issue is telling if it's emerald or pastel showing or both. Seems to be very hard to identify without test breeding however the price of a pastel violet pied is quite different to a pastel violet emerald pied.
I believe the parents are what is claimed but that does not guarantee emerald in that offspring.

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:56 am
by Ring0Neck
Do you have/ seen many pics of just Turquoise Violet pieds?
I have a few, i can dig some pics for you if you want.

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:01 am
by Lyng1965
Would be good if you could Ben.
I have sent some Pics to your mobile number as well

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:14 am
by Ring0Neck
From what i have seen the best way i can describe an EmeraldTurquoise Violet Pied V Turquoise Violet Pied

The EmeraldTurquoise Pied chest/rump is a lime green color whereas Turquoise Violet Pied has a dirtier lookin rump/chest

We are dealing with pieds & it is much harder as they always change their phenotype not like say a WHWT

I did not get the pics yet, email is better if you can.

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:24 am
by Lyng1965
What's your email address ben

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:33 am
by Ring0Neck
ringneck
@techemail.com

here's a pic of the violet Turquoise Pied (first bird on the left)
http://parakeet.me/irn/m/em/IMG_7537.JPG

Re: Pastel emerald violet pied

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:21 am
by Ring0Neck
Ok

I got the pics Thanks.



It could carry the Emerald gene, still, i would want to see good pics of the father and rest of the youngsters.
but if i wanted to buy this bird i would not pay more than what a Turquoise Violet Pied is worth due to its size, it is on the small side
possibly due to parents stop feeding it a few days before fleding to encourage them to get out of the nest, or was one of the last hatched etc etc
it happends.

here's a pic of a TurquoiseEmerald Pied

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Here's Peter S.'s Emerald Violet Pied very similar to the 1 in Q.
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