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SL Dom. Edged Hens

I think for better understanding this mutation, this issue has to be addressed as i believe there is a common mis-conception
that edged hens carry cinnamon, when in fact it is not so in most cases.
WHY? Because the hen is so light in color one logically assumes it must also be cinnamon.

Edged Males you can have in:
SF= Single Factor Edged
DF= Double Factor Edged

Edged hens

Pretty sure Madas annotation for hens is EF, so i use EF and correct if needed later.
EF only= Hens will only have a single pheno/genotype, much lighter than an SF Edged male, more closer to DF Edged male

Breeding Results when using Edged birds:
SF Edged Blue Male X Blue hen: Half of hens & males will be edged (hens will look lighter than edged males, can nest sex them)
DF Edged Blue Male X Blue hen: ALL hens & males will be edged (hens will look lighter than males, can nest sex them)

Blue male X Edged Blue hen: All males will be Edged, hens will be normal (can nest sex them)

*** I stand to be corrected if anyone thinks otherwise or has something to add, please do so.

in that case what you can do is to test the bird first put a cinnamon male to the edged female and see if you breed any cinnamon males, but then again a grey Dom.Edged female cant be silver almost as light as a grey dilute. There isn't always time to test breed every bird so its better to usually have a background of the parents but its not always been given to us when we buy birds. In my case I believe I have 4 cinnamon edged hens(3x grey and one blue) till I can prove it wrong.

Ring0Neck wrote:
Edged hens

Pretty sure Madas annotation for hens is EF, so i use EF and correct if needed later.
EF only= Hens will only have a single pheno/genotype, much lighter than an SF Edged male, more closer to DF Edged male

I am pretty sure it isn't.
Edged females should only be label Edged without sf, df or ef.
btw: ef is wrong in a English forum. It's a german label and means "Einzel-Faktor".

Anthony anth Mc Geer wrote: There isn't always time to test breed every bird so its better to usually have a background of the parents but its not always been given to us when we buy birds.

There is always time to test breed any bird. But most breeders haven't the aviary space for doing it.

madas wrote:btw: ef is wrong in a English forum. It's a german label and means "Einzel-Faktor".

Oh, I thought it was an afrikaans label that means 'Enkel Faktor'.

Anthony anth Mc Geer wrote:in that case what you can do is to test the bird first put a cinnamon male to the edged female and see if you breed any cinnamon males

did you mean, if you breed any Cinnamon hens?

1.0 Cinn x 0.1 Cinn SL Edge = 100% Cinn hens and 100% Cinn sf SL Edged cocks

Hi Shey, Ants is right. We already know that the cinnamon cock will produce cinnamon hens only. The 'unknown' is testing if the hen is carrying cinnamon also, which will only inherit recessively to the sons. To bring that out, we need another cinnamon gene from the cock to produce cinnamon cocks. If the hen doesn't carry cinnamon, we will have / cinnamon sons.

ah yes you're both right-! I did not think the other side of the equation. The hard bit telling what cock is also Cinnamon when they are not openly expressing it is the key

perhaps it would be better to put a suspected Cinnamon sf SL Edged cock to a Cinn hen- and if he breeds any Cinnamon (without edge, so not to confuse things) hens then he is.