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Here are father children pics of cleartail turq birds. Father cleartail dark turqblue (left), offspring cleartail turq mauve violet (middle and other pics; first ever breed in Europe; not my birds).







and a bad one :



greetings.

Ah yeah. I must search for it in my archive.

Ben, I'm fairly sure recessive genes can show themselves in combinations, like in your grey dom. pied / CT. Our mauve SL dom. edged / CHF cocks also have a different mandible colour.

Madas, do you think the father cleartail dark turqblue is split for NSLino? Unless it is simply the moult, the bird has a poorly defined neck ring. That is a very good marker for ino, as you know. Which also adds to the point that recessive genes can manifest themselves in other combinations.

Ring0Neck wrote:

I have 2 grey pieds same age diff. bloodline
the one the right has black lower mandible (as it should)
the one on the left does not

* The only diff. between the 2 is the bird on the left is split CT brother of the "white"

Could that be a sign of the CT split?
the only other mutation that i can think of with red lower mandible is Cinnamon




Opinions ?

PS: I can see in the pic bird on the left has a dark red beak & the other lighter red, not sure if so as these pics were taken at diff times but i will do a visual inspection to be sure.

Regarding the beak color: a psittacula krameri borealis beak is showing the same appearance like your bird in the left pic. So not necessarily caused by a hidden rec. mutation.

madas

Johan S wrote:Ben, I'm fairly sure recessive genes can show themselves in combinations, like in your grey dom. pied / CT. Our mauve SL dom. edged / CHF cocks also have a different mandible colour.

Madas, do you think the father cleartail dark turqblue is split for NSLino? Unless it is simply the moult, the bird has a poorly defined neck ring. That is a very good marker for ino, as you know. Which also adds to the point that recessive genes can manifest themselves in other combinations.

Hm, don't know. But never heard that the breeder got any NSLino from his cleartails. But in return he got 4 CT mauve violet within three breeding season. Not bad at all.

madas

madas wrote:

Ring0Neck wrote:

I have 2 grey pieds same age diff. bloodline
the one the right has black lower mandible (as it should)
the one on the left does not

* The only diff. between the 2 is the bird on the left is split CT brother of the "white"

Could that be a sign of the CT split?
the only other mutation that i can think of with red lower mandible is Cinnamon




Opinions ?



PS: I can see in the pic bird on the left has a dark red beak & the other lighter red, not sure if so as these pics were taken at diff times but i will do a visual inspection to be sure.

Regarding the beak color: a psittacula krameri borealis beak is showing the same appearance like your bird in the left pic. So not necessarily caused by a hidden rec. mutation.

madas

Similar to Alexandrine sub species...but different because its hard to tell them apart. Most models are based around P. k. manillensis. Little is documented that I've found on the variations between sub species in psittacula krameri.

I have three such birds with off colored beaks

Can you please post a picture of that bird in the blue series

Nice pic but I wanted a pic of a cleartail turq blue ???

Can you please tell me what bird this is I bred it out of a turq grey/whwt and a turq blue

Funny I never expected it from that pair but still could it be possible to breed it out of a turq grey/whwt and a turq blue. Or could it mean that the turq blue also splits

Thank you very much but I'm selling those birds getting me pieds or violets but the price of the violets are hefty