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Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:15 pm
by Mikesringnecks
Hi all
Had a query from one of the forum watchers. Can anyone please post a pic of a Green Opaline Pied. I'm no use, I don't have pieds.
Kind regards
Mike
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:16 am
by prodigy
Recessive or Dominant Pied ?
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:39 pm
by John Shannon
Hi Mike
I don't have Opaline, but a starting point could be a Green Dominant pied Cock I breed in 2012.
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:56 am
by prodigy
Opaline Recessive Pied

Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:05 am
by Johan S
Prodigy, Jurgen has that bird labeled as a dominant pied in Facebook. And it looks like one too. Did he say it is something else?
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:15 pm
by prodigy
whoops wrong pic, correct one up now
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:04 pm
by John Shannon
Hi Prodigy
That picture of the green dominant pied Mature cock looked great. If my 2012 green dominant pied matures like him I will be very happy.
Attached is a picture of his parents and there 2012 and 2013 nests.
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:32 pm
by Ring0Neck
I guess everyone is asking in hope that they have Opaline in their Pieds.
We can all dream but this is so easy to answer
From a Harlequin Opaline male you should breed Opaline hens with & without pieds.
When you breed one Opaline hen then you have confirmation of the pied being Opaline.
Accept the fact that Harlequins have a head same as Opaline
If Opalines were in abundance and would cost $50ea no one would say my pied might have opalines.
so we can see why we think like this
All i'm saying Phenotype is not the way to identify but breeding results !
Hope we can see some Opalines bred from pieds, it would be a nice bonus.
I keep an eye on pieds offspring too 
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:41 pm
by trabots
When you breed one Opaline hen then you have confirmation of the pied being Opaline.
Accept the fact that Harlequins have a head same as Opaline
How can you say that Ben when you haven't explored the alternate hypothesis that Opaline and Harlequin are just variants of the same mutation? Recio, Johan??
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:04 pm
by Ring0Neck
A more useful Question:
What is the phenotype of a Harlequin SL Edged?
Now whoever answers that adds valuable data everyone can use.
I paired up an SL Edged X Harlequin
unfortunately no pieds offspring this year.
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:33 pm
by Carr.birds
Forum
Sorry not green opaline pied but blue opaline adm pied and grey turq opaline adm pied
To be opaline they must be hens, but it is from an opaline pied combination bred by a friend of mine.
Tienie
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:07 pm
by trabots
How can you say that Ben when you haven't explored the alternate hypothesis that Opaline and Harlequin are just variants of the same mutation? Recio, Johan??
I forgot something
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:20 pm
by madas
prodigy wrote:Opaline Recessive Pied

Please can you repost the pic of the com pied of Jürgen? thx.
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:28 am
by Johan S
trabots wrote:How can you say that Ben when you haven't explored the alternate hypothesis that Opaline and Harlequin are just variants of the same mutation? Recio, Johan??
I forgot something
Willy, I asked that exact same question!

And it turns out my opalines breed with a sex-linked recessive inheritance model. I do not have a harlequin though. Do you think we can confirm it as incomplete dominant from existing breeding results in Oz yet?

Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:35 am
by trabots
Johan, do me a big favour and just answer me in the other thread.
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:14 am
by prodigy
Jurgen's Pied
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:15 am
by madas
prodigy wrote:
Jurgen's Pied
So what is your opinion regarding the color of the neckring? I thought dom. pieds have a grey neckring and not a black one. So is your first assumption "opalin rec. pied" correct???
thx.
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:53 pm
by prodigy
Madas, the orange neck ring was the first thing I noticed on the bird.
Re: Green Opaline Pied
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:58 pm
by prodigy
Carr.birds wrote:Forum
Sorry not green opaline pied but blue opaline adm pied and grey turq opaline adm pied
To be opaline they must be hens, but it is from an opaline pied combination bred by a friend of mine.
Tienie
Tienie can you confirm that florescence on the birds or was a flash used to take the photo's ?