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what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:29 am
by dan4nas
Can someone who is confident in their mutations give me an email to send a photo through. I am handrearing my new baby. His father is blue. Mother is "different" type of green and I and the breeder need help identifying her mutation, also to determine what our babies will be. Please help

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:32 am
by sheyd
sure-

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:37 am
by dan4nas
Thankyou for the quick reply. We are very eager to know what she is.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:44 am
by sheyd
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/ ... 2a92a1.jpg
(photobucket is playing up- so could only post a link)

looks like she's a TurquoiseBlue :)
so, you'll get Blue or TurquoiseBlue babies from that pairing.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:49 am
by dan4nas
Oh wow!! If your suspicions are right what are we expecting the two chicks to possibly be? Mate is a blue.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:50 am
by sheyd
so, Blue x TurquoiseBlue will give you 50% Blue and 50% TurquoiseBlue offspring in both sexes

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:50 am
by dan4nas
Sorry got excited. Thanks for letting me know babies colours :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:52 am
by sheyd
no worries :D

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:54 am
by dan4nas
We each have one baby from the clutch. They are currently 2 weeks and 5 days old. We are so excited to see what colour we each get. Starting to pin now. I have sent a photo of my baby I took today to your email,

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:59 am
by sheyd
I haven't received it yet?

It's exciting isn't it? I'm awaiting for my own babies to feather up (they're two weeks today) I'm like a little kid at Christmas lol

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:01 am
by dan4nas
Way too exciting. He ( not really sure but don't like saying it) changes every feed, and it's so remarkable. But colour up already!!! Lol congrats on your babies :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:02 am
by sheyd
ah, here we go:

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Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:03 am
by dan4nas
There's my beautiful baby!! Name is echo- I love this little guy like crazy!!

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:11 pm
by sheyd
new pics from Dan4nas
Hi again
Here is echo today at 3 weeks and 2 days. Any ideas on colour as yet?
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Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:13 pm
by sheyd
still a bit too early to tell - give it another week :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:25 pm
by dan4nas
Thankyou :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:19 pm
by bennjamin
I will say your 2 babies are turquoiseblue...

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:56 pm
by dan4nas
I only have one. Pictures are the same baby. I'm very excited to see what colour he will be :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:49 am
by bennjamin
dan4nas wrote:We each have one baby from the clutch. They are currently 2 weeks and 5 days old. We are so excited to see what colour we each get. Starting to pin now. I have sent a photo of my baby I took today to your email,
I thought you said there were 2 babies,.....Your right, the waiting is sooo hard.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:34 am
by Skyes_crew
My guess is your baby is blue :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:28 pm
by dan4nas
Yes there are two babies. Only one with me though. I thought you were thinking the two photos were of two babies that's all.

Well we have a bit of colour!! Two pins showing feathers through on wings and showing colour on tail. In normal light they look blue. Under a flash with the camera they are aqua green. So I'm stumped. Lol will have to wait longer

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:32 pm
by sheyd
pic for dan4nas:

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Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:48 pm
by Ring0Neck
Turquoise blue

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:07 pm
by Skyes_crew
Turquoise blue :D

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:49 pm
by dan4nas
:D beautiful

Thankyou shey for putting up the photos for me I really appreciate it.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:50 pm
by sheyd
I'll wait for more feathers as it could go either way.. remember she said that it looked blue without a flash.. lol Flash on Blue makes a 'greener' bird. we'll know soon :lol:
Thankyou shey for putting up the photos for me I really appreciate it.
no worries :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:51 pm
by bennjamin
Has the other baby broken a feather yet.... bet its turquoise as well...cause the hen is a DF Turquoise :wink:

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:56 pm
by Ring0Neck
I agree with Bennjamin, hence my bold prediction.
however, pics are not the best so there's a chance the hen is turquoise blue

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:00 pm
by sheyd
hmm.. Dan4na, any chance of a better shot of mum?

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:00 pm
by Skyes_crew
I thought the hen was a turquoise blue? If she's a turquoise that changes the results. The only thing she could get would be turquoise blues.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:21 pm
by Ring0Neck
Yea, more pics would be nice.

Most breeders don't have df parblue for a reason:
they use parblues to higher mutations, not having time to pair parblue X parblue
however, a remote or smaller breeder will rotate his own stock and chances of df birds are more likely to be found there.
on the other side, breeders with rarest mutations always bring in new blood/mutations so 2 parblues rarely meet as a pair.

Post 888 :D


Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:06 am
by dan4nas
I will message my friend for a better shot of mum. They should get a better one now as no more babies in the box.
I've only got a photo of other baby before pinning so I'll ask for another of bub.
They are a deep aqua on the wings, more and more coming out over the day. On the tail I am getting baby blue type colour, same as under the wing... I do not know proper colour names for ringnecks I apologise.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:12 am
by dan4nas
At the moment bush fires surrounding their property (lovely Australia) so birds have been moved to safety at their in laws. They will get photos on the next few days for me. Other baby has broken feathers, baby blue with a tint of green. So a very light aqua.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:55 am
by sheyd
pics Dan4nas:

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sire:
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Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:58 am
by dan4nas
Photos of my chick are all taken inside with a flash. Would it give a better perception of colour if I took him outside during the day and take a photo in natural light?

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:24 am
by sheyd

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:26 am
by sheyd
dan4nas wrote:Photos of my chick are all taken inside with a flash. Would it give a better perception of colour if I took him outside during the day and take a photo in natural light?
Pics out side are more accurate- so yes.

If they look 'aqua' very good chance both chicks are TurquoiseBlues :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:28 am
by dan4nas
So your still set on her being turquoise blue?

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:36 am
by sheyd
dan4nas wrote:So your still set on her being turquoise blue?
nope, not without better pics :wink:

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:38 am
by dan4nas
LOL ok. well by saturday chick will probably give you the indication of his colour anyhow.

What would the other possibility be of the hen, just a normal green?

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:40 am
by sheyd
dan4nas wrote:LOL ok. well by saturday chick will probably give you the indication of his colour anyhow.

What would the other possibility be of the hen, just a normal green?
no, the other possibility is Turquoise -which is doublefactor (Homozygous)-will always pass on one copy to the resultant offspring.

TurquoiseBlue is singlefactor (Hetrozygous)-may or may not pass on a copy to offspring

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:48 am
by dan4nas
I am reading that DF turquoise is much greener in body than the turquoise blue? I can tell you that the dam is a very vibrant green. There is no blue tinge to her green areas, and in the blue areas, different shades of blue from very light to a navy blue.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:49 am
by sheyd
Here is a Turquoise(df) (left), and a TurquoiseBlue(sf) (Courtesy of Willy)

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Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:58 am
by dan4nas
Going off that photo she is much more like the bird on the left, however I would say her body is an even more vibrant green. flight feathers are the same... the tail, however, she has much darker blue feathers mixed in there. But definitely ALOT more like the bird on the left.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:00 am
by bennjamin
dan4nas wrote:Going off that photo she is much more like the bird on the left, however I would say her body is an even more vibrant green. flight feathers are the same... the tail, however, she has much darker blue feathers mixed in there. But definitely ALOT more like the bird on the left.
Well there you go, sounds DF to me

Most DF turquoise mature birds we have grown on have very yellow sox and the underwing is a very rich yellow,

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:33 am
by dan4nas
I'm very excited to see all these feathers come out to see if you were all right :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:13 pm
by dan4nas
New little feathers this morning, confusing me even more lol. Wings turning out to be blue, bright blue. flight feathers very vibrant green. tail is blue and under wings on the body is blue also. photos coming.

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:27 pm
by sheyd
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TurquoiseBlue for sure :)

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:30 pm
by sheyd
dan4nas wrote:Going off that photo she is much more like the bird on the left, however I would say her body is an even more vibrant green. flight feathers are the same... the tail, however, she has much darker blue feathers mixed in there. But definitely ALOT more like the bird on the left.
She might be a Dark(factor) Turquoise or Dark TurquoiseBlue do you know what mutations her parents were?

Re: what colour is my new babies mum??

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:32 pm
by dan4nas
He is getting some gorgeous colours!! I am guessing he will be much more blue looking than his mother though??? Those wing feathers are very blue, dam is very green in wings apart from flights.