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I'm looking for some help from someone who knows about Clear Head Fallow indian ringnecks please.
I purchased a Emerald split for Cleartail when it was a young hen , now she is 2yo and her eye still resembles a young bird,
I questioned the breeder when the bird was nearly a year old about her eye but he insisted it was split Cleartail.
I am a little concerned that the bird is a Clear Head Fallow, can anybody help me identify the bird or let me know what I should be looking for apart from her eye's.
my concern is that I have paired her up with a blue Cleartail, not sure what the breeding outcome will be but I think they will breed all splits ?
any help will be appreciated

Hi Ben,
Thanks for your help, here are some more pics of the hen

thank you Ben

any idea about the eye's

The eye does look dark plum red in one picture. Perhaps a photo taken with a flash could help?

But I agree with Ben on the lower mandible. That would be strange for chf.

Thanks Johan and Ben,
I did have a closer look at her toe nails and they are grayish ,
Good idea Johan I will take a photo tomorrow with a flash and post it

Thanks again

Hi Gratz,

there are some cleartail offspring birds which show such dark plum red eyes. I think Tienie is owning one in cobalt. Another breeder of the UK was reporting such a dark eyed ringneck at the yahoo discussion group seee here: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Gene ... sage/17379. Unfortunately his website is gone. But pics could be found here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Genetics- ... 20&dir=asc

So the dark eye could be caused by the cleartail mutation or by a hidden (means the bird is split for another "fallow" mutation) mutation. May be it is CHF.

greetings.

madas

Hi Madas

Thank you for the information ,it's very much appreciated

I took some photo's this morning while it was a little dark with the flash on ,
I cant make any sense of it cant really see any red , I will try again late this afternoon when the sun goes down to see if it makes any difference.

Hi Glen- try a different device- some cameras won't show red eyes with a flash (your CT should be showing red eyes).

Thanks Sheyd

yes that's why I put the cleartail in the pic,
maybe my camera is too advanced and automatically removes Red Eye lol

yeah, mine won't either- I have to use my mobile's flash if I want to show red eyes

Well I waited for the sun to go down but didn't get the desired result, photo was taken with my phone camera with the flash on, will try again tomorrow in daylight with the flash on , see what happens then.

Gratz, Shey, Ben, Stefan and Johan

Stefan I agree this dark eye colour is found in cleartail mutations. Page 555 in Bastiaan's book you will find a comparison between sf grey turq cleartail hens but what he didn't mention is the difference in the eye colour. Hen on left has a dark eye.

Gratz I think you can trust the breeder that the hen is a split cleartail. I own a split dark eye split cleartail, dark eye/cleartail and one dark eye cleartail.

Attached some pics for comparisons

ef (sf) sl edged dgreen cleartail (dark eye)




dblue/cleartail?/pastel?




What I can mention is that the eye colour is a recessive inheritance.


Tienie

Tienie ,
Thank you very much for that information ,
My concern was mixing something unknown or undesired into the cleartail line but now I think I will leave the pair together for this breeding season.

success!!!!
Cleartail has dark plum eyes
Emerald has Black eyes
so now what do I have ? what do you call an Emerald with black eyes ?
any feedback/suggestions appreciated
thanks

Thanks Ben

kind of has a ring to it lol
I like it

yes would be interesting to see if it reproduces black eye offspring , but as Tienie said it is recessive so I don't think it will,

looking forward to see what Tienie has to say

thanks

Interesting info Tienie- thanks for that.

On Glen's bird:
I must admit that I was expecting the eyes of the Emerald to glow red with a flash and was surprised when they didn't. I also haven't seen a bird with eyes like that unless it was a Clearheaded Fallow