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how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:37 pm
by Farzz1
Hi
Lastly I would like for somebody to help explain how possible it is for this bird to look violet.
Parents cock mauve turq / lacewing and hen opaline /blue
Tks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:44 pm
by Farzz1
Hi
As per gen calc this would bet the cock birds however the bird in visual that Madas would post for me shortly would prove wrong

1.0 DD turquoise(parblue) /pallid
x 0.1 green opaline /blue
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 D green /turquoise(parblue) opaline
25.0% 1.0 D turquoise(parblue)Blue /opaline
25.0% 1.0 D green /turquoise(parblue) pallid opaline
25.0% 1.0 D turquoise(parblue)Blue /pallid opaline
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 D green /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 D turquoise(parblue)Blue
25.0% 0.1 D green pallid /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 D turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:49 pm
by sheyd
Farzz1 wrote:Hi
Lastly I would like for somebody to help explain how possible it is for this bird to look violet.
Parents cock mauve turq / lacewing and hen opaline /blue
Tks
If your cock is a Violet Mauve (Turq split Lacewing) then it is perfectly possible

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:03 am
by Farzz1
Hi
I would agree that the strangest things could happen but not a violet genetic calc has no room for a singular violet, until Madas post the pics of the father and son I would be able to establish that the mauve is a v/mauve however that still remains a mystery that a violet looking bird bred from a turq mauve and and an opaline/blue hen eish that impossible
Tks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:41 am
by Ring0Neck
Farzz1

I would not call it impossible. if the young is violet then i call it certainty:
Your cockbird Mauve is also violet as the others already mentioned.
In gen calc there is room to input violet sf or df
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Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:19 am
by madas
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Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:08 am
by Farzz1
Hi
The pics of the mauve is the father of the bird in question, I await for Madas to upload the violet pic
tks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:17 am
by Farzz1
Hi
Well what does you know 6.25%possibility eish
6.25% 1.0 D blue violet(sf) /pallid opaline
Could that really happen .I await Madas to post the pic of the violet d blue its certanly a stunner, but my violet d blue do not look like that
thanks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:24 am
by Farzz1
Hi
Just to collectively place our interests the yellow partridge looking bird in interrogation should be in the other pics with the grey partridge looking bird that is the chick from last year :mrgreen: ,
same mother but this time she was not paired to the grey misty but still produced the same effect on the wings
thanks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:42 pm
by Farzz1
Hi
If Madas can only post the pics of the son i.e. violet :mrgreen:

Anybody no comment, common is the mauve ,mauve or v/mauve? Am I talking to myself? :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
tks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:57 pm
by Farzz1
Hi M
As I said in the beginning mauve turq so how is it possible to have a violet looking bird? :oops: :mrgreen:
If only Madas can post the violet pics from sibling to adult
Tks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:59 pm
by Farzz1
Hi
Just a thought once I looked at the wing again has anybody else noticed the vertical stripes (almost fine) against the feather grain? :shock:
Tks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:50 pm
by sheyd
I agree with it being a homozygous Dark Blue- I couldn't detect any Violet in those pics

looking forward to the pics of the 'Violet' offspring

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:16 pm
by madas
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Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:16 pm
by madas
Perhaps it's a pure cobalt. :D

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:22 am
by Farzz1
hi
also pay attention to the neck ring only a small portion of black on it,thats not so normal
tks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:57 pm
by Farzz1
Hi
I have excluded violet from the equation and also end up with 12.5%1.0 D blue /pallid opaline however the turq mauve is a normal turq mauve as seen above so what explanation can we draw to of a suggested pairing to extract the true make-up of the bird ,Anybody ???
Tks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:00 am
by Johan S
Where did the mauve turq farther come from, i.e. who was the breeder?

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:40 am
by madas
Farzz1 wrote:Hi
I have excluded violet from the equation and also end up with 12.5%1.0 D blue /pallid opaline however the turq mauve is a normal turq mauve as seen above so what explanation can we draw to of a suggested pairing to extract the true make-up of the bird ,Anybody ???
Tks
Pure, normal blue female.

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:57 pm
by Farzz1
Hi
J.S I am not sure where or who the breeder is. It has never occurred to me to track so far back however I would look at the ring tomorrow and post it may be somebody could identify from there. I’ve inherited the mauve turq and the only possible feedback I would have is that it is split pallid therefore I have used it as a foster last year paired to a dom edge grey hen I’ve never hatched the eggs as the importance never occurred to do so but now.
Madas
I have had that in mind pairing the bird with a pure blue but a stupid question what would that do exactly (I think I do know the answer but a fresh perspective on the bigger picture would help )
Many thanks

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:19 pm
by sheyd
Farzz1 wrote:hi
also pay attention to the neck ring only a small portion of black on it,thats not so normal
tks
The white also looks quite 'thick'.

Re: how is this possible ? Unexplainable

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:20 pm
by sheyd
madas wrote:
Farzz1 wrote:Hi
I have excluded violet from the equation and also end up with 12.5%1.0 D blue /pallid opaline however the turq mauve is a normal turq mauve as seen above so what explanation can we draw to of a suggested pairing to extract the true make-up of the bird ,Anybody ???
Tks
Pure, normal blue female.
agree