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IRN or ARN?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:02 pm
by Brandie
Hi everyone,

I just got my new baby last night and I'm confused as heck. "He" has a black beak and is said to be around 7 months. "He's" been through heck, plucked and beaten up by an agressive little parakeet and I'm looking forward to making "him" healthy and happy. As you can tell I use the term "he" because I was told it was a male bird but that will be a mystery for awhile. lol I wanted to post a pic but for the life of me I can't seem to do it so if I can just get feed back on the beak I'd be very happy. I was told he was an IRN but the beak color makes me think he might be an African Ringneck.

Thanks for any info!!

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:10 am
by Brandie
I'm actually questioning if he's a ringneck at all. His tail feathers are pretty chewed up so they're short, no help with identification, and his beak resembles a pionus. It's bone colored near the face and the rest is black. He has the yellow ring around the eye but that isn't much help either. Can anyone post a pick of a young ringneck that I can use for comparison? The web didn't have many young birds on it. Thanks!

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:15 am
by fionalouise1989
Hello, Im not sure of the differences between the two but I can post you a link to a picture of my IRN who is about 3 months old (15 weeks).

(removed unworking links)

Regards
Fi

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:04 am
by Brandie
Hi Fiona

When I click on the link it says I don't have permission to view this. Dang.

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:10 am
by fionalouise1989
Hmm might have been as I copied and pasted instead of going into the full link...
http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s59 ... 113445.jpg
http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s59 ... 113510.jpg
I posted the full link so these should work otherwise try the grey green thread where I posted them originally
Sorry about that
Fi

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:14 pm
by Brandie
First off..Beautiful bird!! Second, mine looks nothing like that. His beak is what throws me off because its more narrow and almost all black. I guess I'll have to just wait and see. Thank you Fiona!
:-)

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:42 pm
by fionalouise1989
Hello Brandie
I just googled african ringneck baby and this website popped up the second photo has a black beak like what sounds like you are describing
http://www.parrotfeather.com/asiatics/africanringnecks/

Thank you, I think hes gorgeous but im biased :)

Im sure your birdie will be pretty whatever type it is, IRNs and ARNs are very similar by the looks of it...

Best wishes hope it all goes well
Fi

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:45 pm
by Brandie
I'm thinking he's an African ringneck. I discovered why his beak was confusing me.. His is missing a piece on one side and it makes his beak look narrow. Man this guy must have been through a lot! No tail, almost bald on top and around his eyes and a broken beak. Poor thing! Luckily it's just a small piece and he eats well. (Like a horse!) Thank you for all your help Fiona, I really appreciate it.

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:08 am
by MissK
Man, what a story!

Best wishes,
-MissK

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:23 am
by Shalah
Hi.. I was pleased to find a forum that discussed the difference in beak colour between IRNs and ARNs. I have a 6 mth old blue ringneck of small stature (120gm) with a dark beak while both parents are larger birds with the orange/red beak of the Indian Ringneck. Is it possible that two apparent “Indian” ringnecks could throw back to an “African” as I do not know the lineage of the parents. The photos are Entree at 3 and 6mths ( named by a snake breeder as he was a “bite size portion” ), his yellow mum and his blue dad ( on wire at right) and the fourth photo is the story of Entrees life so far which certainly gives hope to all novices out there. He has been through A LOT!!
I will also place this story in another forum.

I hope someone can help explain his differences. Ohhh I forgot to mention that he has paler feet. Not as pale as his yellow mum, but certainly not black.

hmmm Unfortunately when I try and link to images it says Im spamming for a new member and when I try to add an attachment it says the board quota has been filled. Does Anyone have any hints on how I can provide you images ?

Re: IRN or ARN?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:54 am
by Shalah
Hi Brandie, I have raised a supposed ringneck with the same colouring beak as yours. His mum is a yellow ringneck and his dad is a beautiful blue ringneck. both with top beak red and bottom black. They are both large birds. I saw your reference to PIONUS beak so decided to look it up as Im a novice at handrearing. Thats the beak that my gorgeous blue "ringneck" baby has. I then looked up "blue Malabar Parrot". The male has a red beak but the females have the dark pionus beak. The male seems to look like a " ringneck". Im now wondering if my male breeder is a Malabar and if its possible to have a malabar cross with the indian ringneck. Looks like I go and start a topic to find out.

Please let me know if you find out anything more.