Hi Shaun.
Molossus is right, it will depend on where you are in the world, as to the availability and price of violets....you would also want to be looking at reputable breeders so you know exactly what you are getting, ie what the parents mutations are at the very least.
Ok, so let's look at your blue cock, and explore a little bit more of where he has come from. Your blue cock has produced a green cinnamon, so we know he must be split to cinnamon to do this. You also think that one of his parents (cock or hen?) was lutino? So lets say his dad was the lutino........to produce your blue cock (who is split to cinnamon), we need to mate this lutino cock to a blue cinnamon hen. We also need the lutino cock to be split to blue, or else you won't get your blue cock, (blue is recessive, so you need a blue from both parents to get blue chicks).
The GenCalc results look like this;
1.0 ino /blue
x 0.1 blue cinnamon
% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 blue /ino cinnamon >>>>>>> this is your blue cock
50.0% 1.0 green /blue ino cinnamon
% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 blue ino
50.0% 0.1 ino /blue
Alternatively, lets say your cocks mum was the lutino? Again, she needs to be split blue, or else you won't produce blue chicks. Then your blue cocks dad would have been the blue cinnamon, or, he could have been a blue SPLIT to cinnamon, (cocks can be split to cinnamon, but hens can't be split to cinnamon). Either way, you would still get a blue cock split to cinnamon and ino from this pair, regardless of whether the cock was blue cinnamon or blue/cinnamon. We'll stick with him being just blue cinnamon, to keep it simple.
1.0 blue cinnamon
x 0.1 ino /blue
% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 blue /cinnamon ino >>>>>>>> here is your blue cock again
50.0% 1.0 green /blue cinnamon ino
% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 blue cinnamon
50.0% 0.1 green cinnamon /blue
So now we have your blue cock as being either blue/ino cinnamon, or blue/cinnamon ino. The placement of ino before cinnamon, or vice versa, depends on which parent of your blue cock was the lutino, and which was cinnamon. Lets see if that makes a difference in the outcome of your blue cock and green hen. And for the purpose of this exercise, we are going to assume your hen is green with no splits, (until they produce a blue chick, you will just have to assume this).
Results if your cock is blue/cinnamon ino =
1.0 blue /cinnamon ino
x 0.1 green
% from all 1.0
48.5% 1.0 green /blue cinnamon
1.5% 1.0 green /blue ino-cinnamon
48.5% 1.0 green /blue ino
1.5% 1.0 green /blue
% from all 0.1
1.5% 0.1 ino cinnamon /blue
48.5% 0.1 green cinnamon /blue >>>>>>>> your green cinnamon here
1.5% 0.1 green /blue
48.5% 0.1 ino /blue
Results for cock bing blue/ino cinnamon =
1.0 blue /ino cinnamon
x 0.1 green
% from all 1.0
48.5% 1.0 green /blue cinnamon
1.5% 1.0 green /blue ino-cinnamon
48.5% 1.0 green /blue ino
1.5% 1.0 green /blue
% from all 0.1
1.5% 0.1 green /blue
48.5% 0.1 green cinnamon /blue >>>> your green cinnamon here
1.5% 0.1 ino cinnamon /blue
48.5% 0.1 ino /blue
So, no difference in the outcomes anyway. You'll also notice, that although you have a high chance of producing green cinnamon/blue and ino/blue (lutino) hens from this pairing, there is a very low chance of producing ino cinnamon/blue and green/blue hens, (but not impossible!). Also, ALL of the cocks you produce from this pair will be visually green, but split to any combination of blue, cinnamon and/or ino.
Your green cinnamon chick is therefore, split to blue, and female
(All this is, of course, dependant on your hen not being split to anything, and nothing else contributing to you blue cocks genetics!!)
Now, have I confused the heck out of you yet? lol,
Once you get the basics of how the genetics work, and how to enter them into the GenCalc, it can be quite fascinating to explore the possibilities. If you are really interested in the genetics of your birds, and the possible outcomes of breeding them, then I highly recommend you jump on board the thread Lushen has started for us newbies regarding using the Genetic Calculator. It starts off with the very basics, and has links to some very good background info on genetics also. Be warned though.........you could find yourself becoming totally addicted to the study of IRN genetics.......just like I have!! (much to my husbands quiet concern!)
Here is the link:
http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... 26&t=15669
Happy reading!
