age issues..

[lolorenjo]

i wonder if we can discuss here about how to predict our ringneck age..
for example eye color and molting process..
my experience chick eye color will change whiter around 7 month..
how about molting?
as far as i know before reach maturity they have 2 stage of molting..(correct me if im wrong)
so in that period of molting we can predict the age visually..
because every molt they change color..
did anyone know?
(sorry my english was bad, i try to be better)

[Molossus2]

Once a cock colors up it is not possible to determine the age visually. In fact after the first annual molt it is difficult to determinag the age visually. Not sure if other breeders concur?

[lolorenjo]

Once a cock colors up it is not possible to determine the age visually. In fact after the first annual molt it is difficult to determinag the age visually. Not sure if other breeders concur?

thank for ur reply..
means that we can predict age before matured?
how about female irn? can we determine visually her maturity?