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This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:34 pm
by julie
I have 3 chicks from this hen in the pic paired to a blue. can someone please tell me what colors i could get and what sexes blues would be from this pairing.
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Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:55 pm
by dog_glenn123
Ok below is the outcomes based on the parents not carrying any other colour gene(split)



1.0 blue
x 0.1 blue pallid
% from all 1.0
100.0% 1.0 blue /pallid
% from all 0.1
100.0% 0.1 blue
All the babies will be blue the males will carry the lacewing gene but not show it.

Do you know what the grand parents on both sides where? in other words what are mum and dads mum and dad?

Ta Glenn

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:22 pm
by julie
Thanks heaps Glenn. All 3 chicks are blue and i have no idea about the parents of the cock or hen.
So its a guessing game with the bubs as to male or female?

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:01 pm
by Recio
Hi;

The mother is not blue pallid (look here for blue pallids: http://home.wanadoo.nl/psittaculaworld/ ... Pallid.htm). Blue pallids display a white head both males and females.
Maybe she is blue cinnamon. Look at her nails colour.

Recio

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:23 pm
by 333greenbean333
Hi,
To me it looks like a blue clear head fallow hen :?:
David

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:34 pm
by dog_glenn123
I made my calcs based on another post Julie put about the hen and she said it was a pallid and the photo doesnt show the white head well!

Ta Glenn

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:23 pm
by julie
I will try to get a better pic of her. Im curious what she actually is.

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:46 pm
by julie
not the best pic, she dont like me in the aviary when the nest box is in there :| pic taken on iphone so not good. Her toe nails are clear.
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Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:19 pm
by dog_glenn123
Ye she is deffinatly pallid(lacewing) plus with clear nails a cinnimon as well.

here are the results for that, all babies still blue visual.
But males split lacewing cinnimon.
1.0 blue
x 0.1 blue pallid cinnamon
% from all 1.0
100.0% 1.0 blue /pallid-cinnamon
% from all 0.1
100.0% 0.1 blue


Ta Glenn

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:56 pm
by julie
Thanks for your help Glenn. One more if you dont mind. Im wondering what color babies from pallid turg blue Hen to Grey/green possibly split pallid cock. I have 1 chick in the nest from this pair and it has started to get tail feathers- its looking a bit interesting .

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:14 pm
by dog_glenn123
Yep no worries,

If the male is split pallid(lacewing)

1.0 grey(sf) green /pallid
x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
% from all 1.0
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) pallid /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 1.0 pallid /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) pallid /blue
12.5% 1.0 pallid /blue
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
12.5% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) green /blue pallid
12.5% 1.0 green /blue pallid
% from all 0.1
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) green /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 green /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) green /blue
12.5% 0.1 green /blue
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) pallid /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 pallid /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) pallid /blue
12.5% 0.1 pallid /blue


Or if the male isnt split Pallid
all these babies will visually be greygreen or green
1.0 grey(sf) green
x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
25.0% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) green /blue pallid
25.0% 1.0 green /blue pallid
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) green /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 green /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) green /blue
25.0% 0.1 green /blue


Ta Glenn

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:32 pm
by PythonzEve
Gorgeous breeders! I usually am not the biggest fan of cinnamons (no offense) but I love the mix in the hen! You'll have to show how the bubs feather in!

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:40 am
by Recio
Hi Julie;

She is not pallid at all, she is just blue cinnamon 100% sure (I have 2 blue cinnamon females exactly the same than your hen). A pallid blue cinnamon would display a clearer blue and a
completely white head.

Best regards

Recio

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:10 pm
by julie
Hi Reico, if she isnt pallid what color babies would be expected from them?

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:26 pm
by 333greenbean333
Hi,
you should get all blues. but your Males offspring will be split cinnamon

1.0 blue x 0.1 blue cinnamon

% from all 1.0
100.0% 1.0 blue /cinnamon

% from all 0.1
100.0% 0.1 blue

David

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:44 pm
by julie
dog_glenn123 wrote:Yep no worries,

If the male is split pallid(lacewing)

1.0 grey(sf) green /pallid
x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
% from all 1.0
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) pallid /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 1.0 pallid /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) pallid /blue
12.5% 1.0 pallid /blue
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
12.5% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) green /blue pallid
12.5% 1.0 green /blue pallid
% from all 0.1
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) green /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 green /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) green /blue
12.5% 0.1 green /blue
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) pallid /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 pallid /turquoise(parblue)
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) pallid /blue
12.5% 0.1 pallid /blue


Or if the male isnt split Pallid
all these babies will visually be greygreen or green
1.0 grey(sf) green
x 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
25.0% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) green /blue pallid
25.0% 1.0 green /blue pallid
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) green /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 green /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) green /blue
25.0% 0.1 green /blue


Ta Glenn
out of all these possibilities which one would it be that the tail feathers are lutino looking and the wings are green?

Re: This stuff makes my head hurt

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:58 pm
by dog_glenn123
Well it will depend on if the green looks normal or more olive(greygreen)
But i would say all the ones that say pallid = green lacewing.
It will say pallid and then / what ever is after that is split too Eg. Pallid/ Turquoise

Is the head yellow too?

Thanks Glenn