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My dude is so bad in the morning

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:53 pm
by surferdon
My lil friend tends to be a "bad Bird" in the morning. He steps up just fine; however, he wants to fly and not to be touched :x Im trying to teach him that he can only fly away when i say the words ok, This is how we train our dogs, they wont even eat a steak in there food bowl until we give the ok command.
I find at night once i get him out, because he mainly does his bluffing at night in his cage when i tell him to step up he will stay with me and even cuddle with me under the covers and watch a movie.
Wha tshould i do, or will this change with age??

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:21 am
by Mikaela
Dude is a regular IRN. Have you seen how tame my Baby is? Well, she still HATES to be touched and I respect that.

She loves to be on you, at you, in your hair, under your shirt, you name it but one stroke down her back is all youre going to get or a bite to go with it. SHE HATES TOUCH and probably always will. I have 30 yrs to find out though. As do you so stop pushing it. *punches surferdon in the arm*

YOU NEED to get that baby clipped if you want a trained bird and a safe environment. A clipped bird is an easily tamed bird... where they gonna go? Nowhere. Who do they rely on then? You. What is the result of that? Massive trustt builder. :D

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:39 am
by Mazziemom
Some birds just NEED to fly around and release energy. Those wings are for more than decoration you know.

Buddy is fully flighted, has been most of his life (other than 2 seasons, once to prevent him removing my husbands eyeballs and the other when he was to appear on TV with me and I was afraid of him flying up into the rafters if startled). I've learned over the years to take him out of his cage and launch him into the air right off. He flies around for about 10 minutes, just flitting from place to place, and then he's ready to hang out with me.

And, not all IRN's are suited to being flighted. I hate to say that, but its true. Mazzie becomes evil incarnate if she's flighted... biting me, and anything else she can get to. We keep her clipped and she stays her loveable self in exchange. She LOVES to be stroked and kissed and touched, but only by me.

Athena

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:51 am
by darkcloudchild
My Male IRN would go insane if he couldn't fly. He has to take his rounds around the living room before he's ready to hang out on the chair with me. He is very jumpy though, and hates being touched.

Now, my female IRN could care less if she ever had to fly. When she's scared she jumps and flaps so she doesn't land hard, but she doesn't fly very far (she's not clipped either). She doesn't care to be touched, but will tolerate it for a couple minutes before she's had enough.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:22 pm
by surferdon
its not that my dude doesnt like to be touched, believe me i could put him to sleep in a minute, i think that is the only reason why my bird is tame in the first place. It used to make me bleed and bite and fly until the first time i scratched his head he was tame. But i found that in the morning he doesnt want to be touched he is wild, and boy can he fly and his flight feathers are clipped regularly but that doesnt do much and i take off quite a bit, or at least the breeder where i got my bird from! Do you guys think that this will change? :roll:

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:37 am
by baby_bella
i do! :wink: how old is your dude? bella gets bitey if i dont spend timw with her the night before... i wrote some stuff it the old posts if you can find them! hehe... its just something you have to persist with and just ignore the bites... if you can instead of pulling away and giving a reaction, push into the bites and you will find they will let go they dont think your gonna push your self into them and it sort of startles them. plus it wont hurt as much :lol: but bella did do this and she doesnt do it now so yeah! its all i gotta say! 8)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:42 am
by Mikaela
He doesnt want to be messed with in the morning. I happen to be a morning person. My husband is NOT. If I mess with him in the morning he bites me too. :cry:

We have to respect that in them as individuals and leave them alone. Even if it means giving him bye bye kisses through the cage.

Respect his morning time and he will love you for it. Baby is mean if woken up anytime of the day. So, I know what you mean, you want to play and they dont... pets arent suppose to decide that! hehe

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:43 am
by surferdon
he is almost 7 months old. But he didnt do this a few weeks ago.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:16 am
by Mikaela
I know Hun:

IRNs tend to start things in a snap. Like Baby this week, she has been in a bad mood for two days. She will step up but she puffs up as if to threaten a bite.

We are dealing with VERY sensitive, moody animals. Have you done anything different? Had a stranger in the house recently, moved even the smallest toy in his cage, changed food types? Any of these things and a million more can turn an IRN into a confussed, fussy baby. It doesnt take much.

It is a phase, you'll have dude back in no time. LET HIM know what is accaeptable and unacceptable always using the same phrase. Mine happens to be 'Baaaby, you be a good girl' If she really does something bad she gets a firm NO Baby! I always use her name when giving a command.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:18 am
by Neokireina
Dont take any poop from your birds. Once they start becoming bitey how you react will determine whether this continues or not.

Growls started bluffing, He's been a bit bitey. I offer a crooked finger. He bites it, I put my thumb over his beak and hold it onto my finger. He learns if he bites me his beak gets stuck until I let it go.

Maybe If they are poopy in the mornings just sit with them for a while and talk to hem before you try to physically interact with them