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color question
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:33 pm
by bec
i was just wondering what would be the best color hen to mate with a silver cock?
im looking for skeets new girlfriend now
Re: color question
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:49 pm
by 333greenbean333
Hi,
well sliver is know as cinnamon grey, so what ever colour you get all the offspring girls will have cinnamonin them and the boys will be split cinnamon. So that makes it easier when determining the sex of the bird.
the colour you get is based on buget and what colour bubs your after.
violet hen with the silver will get lavenda females which could look good. or a cobalt and you may get lilac colours bub girls.
that is what colour ringnecks I would get for your male. there are also pieds, cleartails but thet are in the high market area.
David
Re: color question
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:26 am
by Recio
333greenbean333 wrote:violet hen with the silver will get lavenda females which could look good. or a cobalt and you may get lilac colours bub girls.
Hi,
You can not get cobalts without the dark factor.
Lila colour? What's such a thing? Be serious greenbean; you can do better.
Recio
Re: color question
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:12 am
by Razsringnecks
Recio,
ahhhhh, "lets try" and educate what we know....
lets make a basic rule...
lets keep cinnamon with cinnamon and Lutino and ino together....
OMG.....you could really be playing with stuff.... that is well....just bad to see what you get!
Or not get!!!!

Re: color question
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:16 am
by bec
well i ended up getting a very pale blue im not sure what exact mutation possibly pastel
not sure of her splits
skeets parent were blue/ino cock silver hen
im hoping they go well
Re: color question
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:18 pm
by 333greenbean333
You can not get cobalts without the dark factor.
Lila colour? What's such a thing? Be serious greenbean; you can do better.
Hi recio,
If you put a sliver cock with a cobalt hen
=grey blue cinnamon x dark blue
1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon x 0.1 D blue
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 D grey(sf) blue /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0
D blue /cinnamon and this is cobalt
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 D grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 D blue cinnamon this is called lilac
Re: color question
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:27 pm
by 333greenbean333
Hi bec,
Great news. if the parents were bue/ino and sliver hen
1.0 blue /ino x 0.1 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /ino cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue /ino cinnamon
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1
grey(sf) blue (cant be)
25.0% 0.1
blue (process of elemination...)
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue ino(white masking grey) (cant be)
25.0% 0.1 blue ino (white) (cant be)
so you babies will end up being.
sliver x blue hen
1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon x 0.1 blue
% from all 1.0
50.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /cinnamon
50.0% 1.0 blue /cinnamon
% from all 0.1
50.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
50.0% 0.1 blue cinnamon
4 different colours
goodluck, David
Re: color question
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:40 am
by bec
thanks greenbean
im still a little confused at all the genetic codes there
i know in skeets clutch there was him (silver)
and an albino
in the following clutch there was an albino a silver & a blue not sure on the silver & blues genders but i was told the albinos had to be girls
but i think i understood your descriptions
so if i understand correctly all males will be either
grey split to cinamon orblue split to cinamon
and the girls will be silver or cinamon blue is that right?
Re: color question
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:10 pm
by Recio
333greenbean333 wrote:You can not get cobalts without the dark factor.
Lila colour? What's such a thing? Be serious greenbean; you can do better.
Hi recio,
If you put a sliver cock with a cobalt hen
=grey blue cinnamon x dark blue
1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon x 0.1 D blue
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 D grey(sf) blue /cinnamon
25.0% 1.0
D blue /cinnamon and this is cobalt
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 D grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 D blue cinnamon this is called lilac
Hi David;
I said that you could do better ... and you did it. Great. Now it is clearer and easier to understand.
By the way ... about lila as being dark blue cinnamon: this is the first time I hear about it. Where did you "catch" it? Is it a widely accepted terminology?
Best regards
Recio
Re: color question
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:01 pm
by 333greenbean333
thanks greenbean
im still a little confused at all the genetic codes there
i know in skeets clutch there was him (silver)
and an albino
in the following clutch there was an albino a silver & a blue not sure on the silver & blues genders but i was told the albinos had to be girls
but i think i understood your descriptions
so if i understand correctly all males will be either
grey split to cinamon orblue split to cinamon
and the girls will be silver or cinamon blue is that right?
Hi bec,
yep thats right, all the albinos will be female.
grey(sf) blue /cinnamon (grey)
blue /cinnamon (Blue)
grey(sf) blue /ino cinnamon (Grey)
blue /ino cinnamon (Blue)
grey(sf) blue (Grey)
blue (Blue)
grey(sf) blue ino (albino) masking grey
blue ino (Albino)
Hi David;
I said that you could do better ... and you did it. Great. Now it is clearer and easier to understand.
By the way ... about lila as being dark blue cinnamon: this is the first time I hear about it. Where did you "catch" it? Is it a widely accepted terminology?
Best regards
Recio
Hi Recio,
Lilac over in australia is not very widly bred so there are not many. I came across a breeder who bred them and he called them lilac. I couldent find a picture of one but if I do I will post it.
David
Re: color question
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:17 pm
by dog_glenn123
Hi guys there is a colour missing from the lilac discussion.
It is D blue violet cinnimon and it is a very nice looking bird i will try and find a picture for you guys.
Thanks Glenn
Re: color question
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:03 pm
by 333greenbean333
hi,
thats sounds like it would look really good
I cant wait till I breed my own. I am hoping to get a few of those colours next year.

Re: color question
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:53 pm
by dog_glenn123
Re: color question
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:13 pm
by 333greenbean333
Wow!,
thanks, they look stunning! really stunning.
I want one
I think I am going to have to breed some myself
Re: color question
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:05 pm
by dog_glenn123
Where abouts are you?
Aus?
Re: color question
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:23 pm
by 333greenbean333
Hi,
yer, Live in australia, adelaide
the weather only just started to get good now and 2 pairs are on eggs and the others are maiting

Re: color question
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:19 pm
by dog_glenn123
I was just wondering to see if you mite be able to get one of them from one of my breeders.
Im in Sydney and 1 of my ringnecks bred but all 4 eggs where unfertile and now they have started again n 3 eggs n the other pair have bred but i cant get in to see the eggs (parents are very aggressive)
Re: color question
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:37 pm
by 333greenbean333
Hi,
Lol to the aggressive pair
that would be great if you were able to do that. they look really nice. And I hope your other pairs eggs are not duds this time round

Re: color question
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:58 pm
by bec
dog glen i love the pics !!!!!! they are great
green bean in dog glens first pic the one tilting its head looking at the camera looks
almost identical to jylo ( the hen i bought as skeets girlfriend)
would this color make any difference to the genetic calculations done for them?
Re: color question
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:05 pm
by 333greenbean333
Hi bec,
that mutation there is a coablt cinnamon (Dark Blue cinnamon) They are priced for about $1000 AUD. If you were to have one this is what your babies colours would look like.
1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon x 0.1 D blue cinnamon
% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 blue cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 D grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 1.0 D blue cinnamon
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 D grey(sf) blue cinnamon
25.0% 0.1 D blue cinnamon
David
Re: color question
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:31 pm
by dog_glenn123
I think it would be this instead.
1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon (Silver)
x 0.1 D blue violet(sf) cinnamon (Lilac)
% from all 1.0
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 blue cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 grey(sf) blue violet(sf) cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 blue violet(sf) cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 D grey(sf) blue cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 D blue cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 D grey(sf) blue violet(sf) cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 D blue violet(sf) cinnamon
% from all 0.1
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) blue cinnamon
12.5% 0.1 blue cinnamon
12.5% 0.1 grey(sf) blue violet(sf) cinnamon
12.5% 0.1 blue violet(sf) cinnamon
12.5% 0.1 D grey(sf) blue cinnamon
12.5% 0.1 D blue cinnamon
12.5% 0.1 D grey(sf) blue violet(sf) cinnamon
12.5% 0.1 D blue violet(sf) cinnamon
Thanks Glenn
Re: color question
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:48 am
by Lucas
is anyone have a picture of a dark bleu cinnamon?
Re: color question
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:57 am
by luvalutino
hi bec
I have the same mix - a silver male with a pastel blue hen...
did yours breed last season?......what colours did you actually get
thanks
Martino
Re: color question
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:38 pm
by bec
luvalutino wrote:hi bec
I have the same mix - a silver male with a pastel blue hen...
did yours breed last season?......what colours did you actually get
thanks
Martino
no luck this season
but the pair seem to have bonded very well so im hoping we might have sucsess this year
i will try to get some better pics of jylo up when my daughter gets here today as i cant load my pics off my camera onto my computor ( lost the cord & no card reader

)
& hopefully you guys can tell me what color she is?