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hello all i need help

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:59 am
by elhagan
i have 2 irn from 3 month and i want to know the age
how much age for the male and the female
see the pic

female and male
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if the pic not good say to me
i want to know if this irn can breeding
thanx all

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:23 am
by Mikaela
Well, I can tell you it is at least two yrs old because he has developed the ring, short of that, noone can tell you how old a bird is by looking at it.

He could be 2, 12 or 20, literally... only a vet could tell you an approximate age. Even then, it would be an approximate guess.

Sorry I couldnt answer your question but welcome to the board. Im sure you will find alot of info helpful and make a few friends. :)

He is a pretty fella but I would have to say he is no 'spring chick'.

EDIT: You are very welcome.

thank you mikaela

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:46 pm
by elhagan
thank you

first of all

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:57 am
by ScarletKnight
mikela is right about the age of the male. how ever you picks seem washed out if you can take clearer pics of if the bird is green look at the ring the more pronouced the ring the older the bird. if jsut a bleed red then he is closer to two if it pronouced then it older.
ciao

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:08 pm
by Carly
Its hard to tell from the pics, but are those 'african' ringnecks? They look to have the darker beak colour than P.krameri krameri which is the indian subspecies that most (all?) of us on these boards have.

hwo can u

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:10 pm
by ScarletKnight
hwo can u tell i only make out they are ringneck only. how did u coem to the conclusion that they are african.
scarlet

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:27 pm
by Carly
from the pics, they look like they have a darker beak, not a bright red beak like most of the birds on this forum. also elhagen is in egypt so its possible!

but as I said in my post above, the pics are not all that clear, hence why I'm asking the owner ;) please dont get carried away, i was just asking the question!

just out of interest, heres a link to some african ringneck pics:
http://www.birdheavenaviaries.com/India ... necks.html

also i may have confused myself on the subspecies, i think the ones we know as indian ringnecks are P. krameri millensis and the africans are P.krameri krameri? can anyone confirm?

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:31 am
by Mikaela
:lol:

Some things never change.

im sorry

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:54 am
by ScarletKnight
i didn't mean it likeu think im saying im asking how do u know because al i can figire out fro teh pics are tath its a rinneck nothin else only way i knew that because of the body type thats all
scarlet

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:43 pm
by Carly
No worries Scarlet, I understand what you are saying but just wanted to clarify that I wasnt sure either.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:32 pm
by kyria
like scarlet said .. the pictures seems washed out.. maybe thats why the red of the beak seems washed out ? need a clearer pic I think just for interest sake :D

Andrea (Angie)

i want kai

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:38 pm
by ScarletKnight
man that s a beautiful bird. i might be in the market for blue irn as soon as i get the bird room ready since my sister is getting married my mom is giving me a whoel room for them man i can't wait. im buzzing with ideas it gonan be a jungle in there i hoep she realize what kinda nut she gave birth to.
scarlet

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:42 am
by Melika
indian ringneck: Psittacula k. manillensis

african ringneck: P. k. krameri


There are four ringnecks under Psittacula krameri, basically the indian and african are just different subspecies (two of the four).

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:17 am
by kyria
Then there is the Malabar:-

I just learnt about this bird

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Scarlet: The blues are amazing, but the cobalt and the violet are totally awesome if you can get them pure.

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Andrea (Angie)

yeah

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:42 am
by ScarletKnight
like iw as tellign mikela this show i went to had a deep purple on like haycin macaw and i feel in love with it let me tell you what a bird stunning but the price was more then i can come up with. i wish i could have a color one like that never in my life i seen such a bird. the tail msut have been liek 18 inches or so perfect feather and everything no other color but purple was present and yes it was a irn i know the difference i just couldn't tell with the pics being washed out.
scarlet

hello all again

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:30 pm
by elhagan
i see all the comments
and i found some thing
1- carly say thats african ringneck i didnt hear this name befoure but i see the web site you send to me i make comparison between my irn and the african ringneck i found
a- the coral red beak in my bird in male and in the african ringneck is black
b- my female and african ringneck female like other
this is african ringneck male and female look to the beak its black
in my male its red
but the female like other
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and this is my male
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what you will say
answer me heheheh
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Re: hello all again

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:14 am
by Carly
elhagan wrote:carly say thats african ringneck


Im sorry, i thought i was asking you that question!

I'm a bit confused by your post... are you saying that your male has a coral red beak but the female has a darker beak?

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:12 am
by Neokireina
I got no clue, I read the site and looked at the pictures and I cant tell the difference.

hello all

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:52 am
by elhagan
look all whats the different between the indian ringneck and the african ringneck i think all like one i think no different in breeding and fun and talking
sorry all for your time
and i very sorry for my english
sorry carly i know your want to help me
thanx all

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:44 am
by Melika
The african ringnecks and indian ringnecks are two separate subspecies. Meaning they don't interbreed in the wild.



The two in the top picture are african ringnecks. See how their head seems out of proportion to their bodies- the way the front juts out further? And the colour of the beak as well. They're just shaped differently.

But the bottom pic looks like in indian ringneck. Again by the body shape. A much more rounded head on that boy.
Your IRN boy must be at least a year. He has his ring, but other than that I can't tell.


Carly, elhagan was saying the two in the top (one being female) have darker beaks but the male in the bottom pic has a red one. ^^