Billie2

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:22 am

The wooden box is about 8" x 6" x 6" , and sits inside the cage on the floor it takes up about quarter of the floor space her toys and card boxes and allsort of other stuff take up the rest of the room, She makes a space to sleep on the floor and lays there and so after l wake her up she moves and lo and behold there is an egg! When l come home she flutters her wings as a greeting if she could she would

Billie has not touched her seed bar for weeks l expet it is becasue she has too many other things to eat. I am sick and tired of cutting up pomegranite for her to ignore it so l have taken a leaf out of yur book and hung a whole pomegranite up. Her eyes boggled she had never seen a wole one beofre, sliced one side off to show her the seeds but so far she has ignored that too. She likes a segments of mandarine maybe two she grabs it an squeezes and gulps the juice down. I have also hung up a whole tangerine but alas she does not know how to forage. Its

to her. The reason youwould weigh Sanjays is if her fell ill you could see it form his weight as they are clever at hiding illness. Billie has got a peculiar hole in her feathers it looks as if she has pulled some out but it is on her neck, her down is intact and l do not think it is serious maybe at the next moult it will clear up. Sjhewanted to be covered up at 3 but l kept saying "Not yet!" so she sulked l gave in at 4 pm.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:55 pm

Well, it's a risk I will have to take, because Sanjay will not be handled!, there are other signs, like standing on both legs instead of tucking one up, a sick bird uses both. It's rather funny in the mornings, sometimes I creep about when I am up early, so as not to wake him but then there's this little "ahem!" noise from behind the cover, and "wot?", it's not like I can tell a bird to go back to sleep!

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:34 am

True, if l could tell Billie she would know what "Nor now" means but like a child she keeps on asking, When Sanjay trusts you more so you can handle him then will be the time to weigh him, could you lure him onto the scales? Not that the other signs count for Billie she sleeps on the floor of the cage with her beak resting on the floor. When l wake her in the morning she seems to be saying "Five minutes more." And after the covers have come off she does not move. Then she likes a warm up in front of the gas fire on my arm. Still chomping on the cuttle fish bone but no more eggs on day three, but she know that if she lays another it is curtains. She also likes a little parrot nap after lunch, covered. I love the way she refused any more food she takes something and throws it away.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:14 pm

Sanjay does that, he pins and seems quite irate at being offered more, I can imagine Billie sleeping, and the image is quite comical!. Billie isn't a morning lark then?, No, I can't even coax Sanjay on to my hand, or into the little pet carrier, so the scales would definitely be a no no. His metabolism is superb, and he eats healthy foods, if he did follow Billies lead, then I would worry. Billie must be running out of eggs by now?

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:12 am

Just wrote along email reply and Window10 lost it before l could send it. However back to Billie, it is not bloody likely she will run out of eggs as she laid another last night so drastic action has been taken l move her cage to the other side of the room I quite like it there as I can look up and see her and she gets more exercise as she has to fly to me. Wednesdays l refill her bucket with sunflower seeds but this morning I emptied the bits out and rehung an empty bucket =. She spent all morning banging the empty bucket to remind me to refill it. Tomorrow there will be no more corn on the cob and to day there were no grapes and only one segment of mandarin, She only had a corner of toast and a taste of fat free yoghurt. Tomorrow l shall take all chewing toys out and today there were no cardboard boxes for her to chew, maybe boredom will make her sit on the eggs. And when she does it will be 28 days before l see her again although out of spite she might make that another 28 days and then it will be a moult and then we can sit out in the sun.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:47 am

Billie is very clever l told her this morning that she had laid one too many eggs and now there was going to be a big cut back. this evening after she was covered for the night l heard her rumaging around in the nesting box and then she wanted to come out. I saw one of her eggs was seperated from the others so l reached into the box and pulled it out in case it was cracked and lo and behold it turned out to be a dummy egg! "What's this $\m/$ Dummy egg doing in the box?" I asked her "Duunno search me." That means l made a mistake she has only laid seven eggs. and l do not need to be so hard on her. The cage stays where it is, but she can have the Corn cob and grapes the several segements of manadarin but since I did not reill the bucket with sunflower seed she has chomping on the parrot sticks l will let her have those/ Windows 10 is absolute awful first it lost me email then l found it lurking on the search bar and reisntated and sent it but it has dissappeared again. Two minutes ago it was snowing no the sun is out and it is a lovely evening, Very cold. $\m/$

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:48 pm

Goodness! Such a captious birdy!. It's very windy and chillikins here, but apart from a shower we had sunshine all day. I am pleased it turned out to be a dummy egg, I wouldn't want Billie to lose condition or bone density. Sanjay has been his usual little self today, played on the curtains, and made a point of hanging out near me but Not on me, we had a few "ooh I say!" moments curtain twitching (sort of), so it has been just another day, no dramas, thank goodness. $\:D/$

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:27 pm

Billie has been very amorous today taking every opportunity to rub herself on me each time l resisted and put her back on the cage, so l think another egg is coming, well l shall have to cross that bridge when it happens but never less l have dire steps in hand, my old Vista
picked up AOL when l down load firefox as my browser, and it has been the very devil to get rid of, W10 has been bloody minded too.
I hate computers,

Took a walk today losing weight is getting very hard down to 1200 calories a dayand 30 minute brisk walk and stil the fat clings on.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:21 pm

We have layers of fat for a reason, Peter, to protect our organs, our metabolism slows down when we reach forty, and that is the optimum time to reduce calories, furthermore, men, as well as women must guard against osteoporosis, (bone thinning), I tend not to fuss about my weight, I am disabled, exercise hurts, and if I get hungry, I eat, stress makes people gain weight, so there's no point in worrying about obesity.
Poor Billie, at the mercy of hormones, I hope it all settles down soon. Sanjay has been extra toonful today, I was going to record him on my phone and play it back to him, but everytime I switched the voice recorder on, he stopped!, c'est la vie!

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:30 am

Billie does not say anything she squeaks hallo in the morning and chirps when she wants to be covered, she is very economical with words, Well last night she did not lay an egg so we still have 7. The police support office came this morning to say hallo to Billie and to put the record straight evidentially Emma is not being evicted but it could be her tenancy is not going to be renewed she came two years ago in April, she has said she would be leaving in April but I took that with a pinch of salt. However if she refuses to go then eviction will be the answer. The last weeks she has been ulta quiet so maybe she hopes to get a stay of execution. I am making some progress with my Surface pro 4.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:52 am

I thought only private tenancies have "renewal"?, and assured tenancies don't?, I hope she Does move out, for your sake. It's lovely and peaceful here, with "Santa" whom we never hear and barely see, Sanjays big bag of millet came today, I go on Amazon, and order it from Maltbys, £6.15 a bag, they are ten inches long, and you get loads!, delivery is royal mail, and free, and very quick, the woven bags are useful too. So, that will keep the little red beak busy for a while, Wilko's are approx £1.00 for three tiny things,
The new supply of bark chips I put down in the garden yesterday smell lovely, pine wood, and when the sun was shining today, I could smell the scent of pine through my open windows, Sanjay, the philistine, said he couldn't smell anything.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:50 pm

Emma has been with Adullam for about 10 years and l would have thought her tenancy was Assured, but l only have the police support officer's word for her being on a 2 year tenancy, The next door neighbour is a bit of a pain too thumping out the amps, but it seems to only Sunday afternoons, Billie has not laid any more eggs since tuesday she has 7 all her own work she sat on them for about 10 minutes this afternoon maybe she is not keen to sit on so many alll day, This laptop with Windows 10 is a real pain and costly too l took a free trial of Office but when that runs out it will cost me £80 a year to keep Office.

Pets at Home millet comes in bags of about 20 8" long but l forget how much. What l need are big Cuttlefish Bones. Billie chomps through too quickly.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:47 pm

I've seen cuttlefish bone on Amazon, and they look quite big, I doubt if pets at home do 60 millet for six quids!. If those eggs were viable, Billie would be like the old lady who lived in the shoe!.
I've got free office thingy on my tablet, my old laptop demanded payment. It's been an entertaining day, with Sanjays sing song, I played Enya today, and he sat, head on one side listening intently!.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:32 am

All Billie wants to do is rub her self on me she is most persistent and as soon as l put her back ont he cage she flies back to my shoulder and is a pest all over again., I have to lock her in when l play the organ/ Orintis coming through so small l can hardly read it. Raining here. Still only 7 eggs and not sitting on them, l promised her if there were no eggs by Wednesday l would move the cage back, Billie bangs her bell and babble ball when l play the organ js she keeping time or just having fun?

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:29 am

I think Billie was accompanying you with percussion. Sanjay loves noisy noise, we had an early night yesterday, shopping took longer because I tried another ethnic shop to see if they had papaya, as they sometimes do, but no joy, maybe out of season. So I got back later than usual, and in much pain, Fortunately, the rain didn't tip down until after I got home..
Goodness, for a moment there, I thought you were shouting at me!

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:23 am

Well, the insurance company phoned me this morning, and went through my claim in detail, I had to phone the HA to book a repair to a smallish area, and someone will be out tomorrow morning, and I had to phone a decorator for a quote on headed paper, a very nice old guy called John came out this afternoon and promised a quote on headed paper. Sanjay wussed when he came in, it's a good job he isn't moulting, or John would've been covered in down!, it's a lovely day today, the gardeners came this morning to take care of the big back garden, and were very complimentary about my little front one.
Is Billie still behaving like a hussy?

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:30 am

Yes and very determined as well. She started to fuss about that her box was the wrong way round so l turned it round and them she ignorred it, this morning l put her cage back in its usual place she can see out of the window now. Then l went shopping, I bought 32GB flash drive and tried to take a System image but Microsoft would not allow me to down load it so l had to settle for a system recovery. This now computer is doing my head in. I shall be seeing Lylette tomorrow it seems that Emma is not being evicted nor has she had her tenanncy reduced with a shorthold tenancy so l think she must have an assured tenancy and the only way to get rid of her is by court action. Billie wanted to covered up at 3.30 pm and when l refused she went for a dip in her water bowl and got very wet,so l turned up the heating however she asked again at quarter past four so l covered her up. Goodnight

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:42 am

When l play the organ Bilile

ikes to sit on my shoulder and when l am distracted she rubs her self on me but she is ever so sweet about this as the pokes me in the ear first almost like asking permission, so put my hood up, and she looks round the edge of the hood at me just to make sure l am still there sort of thing

So soon you will have a patch on the ceiling, l still have the water mark where the water came in but l hardly noitice it now.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:51 pm

The cuttlefish bones on Amazon are big ones, and the same sort of price as the millet, I believe there are ten in the pack. My ceiling will get two coats of damp seal paint before the emulsion goes on, to stop the stains from coming through, there won't be a patch, the damage is a split between the artex and the moulded cornice, and the tiny puncture I made to drain the water away. I love the visual of Billie peering around your hood, she must look quite concerned. I guessed Emma had an assured tenancy, but they can soon oust her if they put their minds to it. I told the insurance lady about the overflowing bucket under the boiler leak, and she said they must have known there was a leak, I hope it gets back to the HA, if those two leave, the flat will be gutted and done up, maybe even a new boiler, ah well, we can dream.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:36 am

I moved Bille back by the window so she could see out and lo and behold last night she laid another egg. I checked it carefully in case she had raided the enevelope with the dummy eggs but it was real so back went the cage and today there have been no corners of toast, no grapes, no sweet peas, no sweet potato, but l should not have worried because today she has not touched the cuttlefish bone and she has not tried to rub herself on me, in fact when l played the organ she ignorred me. And she managed to last out until 4.15 before l covered her up for the night. Went to see Lyllette today and got some more laundry tokens, she is still talking about giving Emma notice, l gave her some more report sheets but Emma has been remarkably quiet these past three weeks. The only annoying thing is the smell of Cannabis
flooding into my flat, at weekends. It was such a lovely day l walked there and back took 30 mnis each way. Google shut me out (So what's new) and they would only settle for text message to re-open my account that went all right.
Forgeot to mention that Billie has done a lot more flying today which is good exercise. How she is going to sit on 8 eggs beats me

I will try and remember Amazon sell large cuttlefsih bones but we are running low on parrot seed and l shall have to go to Pets at home soon to get some more.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:25 pm

I but parrot seed from Wilko, pets at home and jolleys are too far out of town for me. The repair man came this morning and said it's Not a repair, it's a decorating job, where the artex has lifted, and it just needs scraping back and a fresh bit of artex, so I sent a message to the decorator, and told him to add it to his quote.
Sanjay's sojourns are nowhere near as long now, he goes back indoors for his fresh rations quite quickly, and looks at me as if to say, "are you closing my cage door or not?". Good news about Billie, maybe the silly season is over, we can only hope,

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:11 am

We are not out of the woods yet if ahe can go two weeks with out laying and egg it will be a good step forward, but today she was nibbling the cuttlefish bone and sat on my shoulder and butted me in the ear and l said NO and put her back on the cage. Lunch time she has twigged that she is not sharing my lunch and when l went out to get my lunch she was banging the bell for all she was worth; but l told her no eggs for a fortnight and maybe you can have a corner again.
Just discovered the knowhow number is a preminum and whacks up the charge when you phone for help however I do have a 0800 number which l shall use form now on. I am not paying £8 a month for serivce

to be charged those sort of rates.

Nice evening sunset tonight. I have artex on my living room ceiling too, l like it but they tell me it is old hat.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:55 am

I like artex too, even if it is 80's, it looks quite smart. I hope Billies hormones settle soon, and the next fortnight passes without incident. Can you not google your problem without having to phone for advice?. We had thunder earlier, the look of amazement on Sanjays face was quite comical.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:22 am

Yes we had two claps of thunder on the second l went into the LR and called out "You all right ?" Billie answered. "No, I'm half left!" However she is not sitting on her eggs and still wants to masturbate on me so I must perservere with the no fat, no sugar, no bread and if she lays again will be a servere restriction on cuddles and shoulder rides, I do not know what she has been rolling in but she smelt ghastly so she had a quick shower in the bathroom before bed. Madam down stairs has been extremely quiet. Still live one day at a time is my motto. Could not go for a walk as it was raining.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:12 pm

We had rain all day, so called April showers, Sanjay got into a predicament, he managed to unhook his millet holder and got his beak stuck in the plastic cage, he was yelling like a good un', and flew down towards his floor, carried by the weight no doubt, just as I was about to ride to the rescue, he managed to free himself. Honestly, "parrot safe" just doesn't apply to my little minky!

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:09 am

All the trees in our park are coming out but it looks better than *** pride week! Billie loves chewing plastic a millet holder would not two minutes with her. When l returned from my walk she was sitting on the back of my arm chair looking out of the wndow waiting for my return. I told her she could not have her cage back in the window until she had gone two weeks with out laying an egg. I had a bright idea l put four dummy eggs on the lfoor of the cage they are nylon and she can boot them around as much as she wants but latter l saw she had gathered the eggs towards her nesting box and was trying to get them over the cill, so l took pity on her and put them her nesting box she now has 12 eggs in there but is still not sitting on them. This morning l was dozing in my arm chair Billie flew to the arm and sat on the back of my hand with her eyes closed for 30 minutes, l felt very honoured. Getting very noisy again downstairs, l suppose it has to get worse to get better. Billie does not like th e sudden unwrapping of the blankets in the morning but she likes it when l take them off one at a time, openning the curtains slowly, then she stretches and sits on my hand warming herself in front of the gas fire. I keep telling her she would not get those sort of creature comforts if she flew off.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:20 pm

Very true!. Maybe Billie is an egg hoarder?, or a collector?. Years ago we bought a sack of complete dog food when we were at Crufts, inside, I found a dehydrated mouse (as in dead and dried out, not thirsty), so I put it in a matchbox and sent it to the supplier, he phoned, full of apologies and offered a replacement, I told him our dogs were disappointed because they had the running mouse, and were hoping to collect the skating mouse, golf playing mouse etc, which he thought was hilarious.
Goodness! Are there really *** tree's?, whatever next?, I blame the government for introducing same sex marriage!

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:42 am

Did you notice IRN.com would not let me write ***? Yes l agree with you same sex marriage has destroyed the sanctitiy of marriage how ever l have a bigger problems ANTS in my kitchen. I killed about 30 of the little persihers were they scouts or was this the advance party? I have lived upstairs for 25 years and never had ants before, I sprayed Raid every where but l shall have to get some proper ant killer stuff. In the pet shop we sold mice that were injected with glue and came from China, they stank to high heaven but cats loved them l just hope they were dead before they were injected. The replcement your supplier offered was that for a live mouse? We sold white mice, the little buggers would breed like er well mice. I sexed them and put them into separate fish tanks but even so they still managad to get to each other and before you could say strewth we had a population explosion, and one time l even gave them away to passing punks!
A man came in and asked did we sell mice, yes l said how many do you want? But when saw them he said his snake did not like white mice! Yuk! In the end a research lab took them off our hands. The worst pets of all are Hamsters put together and they kill each other and eat the brains of the weaker one, breeders can only put the male in with a female for four hours any longer and she will kill the male and eat its brains. It was the coming out l marvelled at.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:08 pm

Ew!, I did freelance kennel management years ago (when owners went on hols etc) and one place had a pair of Harris Hawks to keep vermin down, anyway, I had to feed them dead frozen chicks, and half rabbits, the worst thing I had to do was kill a rather large rat near the puppy pen, I hit the nape of it's neck with the edge of a spade, and shook for ages after, I felt so sorry for it, but couldn't risk leptospirosis, or abcessed bites. My daughter adored hamsters, always kept one, even as an adult, but had to teach an assistant in pets at home how to distinguish the gender.We Pagan folk don't have a problem with same sex partnerships, there are *** animals, it happens in nature, so it is "natural", But, If it is against Christianity and Islam, then to allow it is hypocritical, as it goes against the rules. I think the worst hypocrisy was Charles being allowed to marry the camel, oops! I mean Camilla.
Anyway, Sanjay is scared of my micro fibre "feather" duster, even though it has No feathers, he squawks like a good un' everytime he sees it!

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:52 am

Billie had a problem with my Ewbank carpet sweeper but l kept telling her it was all right now she is okay with it on the left. She has not been so persistent to rub herself on me today but she has been chomping cuttlefish bone, she did look at her eggs there was a lot of swearing and bashing them about but she came out and that was that! I had a NSU scooter and in my army days would ride home or back on it, once on the way home l was near Deepcut barracks the road was lined with trees and a squirrel came out in front of me l steered the scooter to the left but the stupid squirrel ran back so l steered to the right and but the squirrel changed its mind and ran back right under my wheels in trying to avoid it l fell off the scooter at 50 MPH and skidded on my belly to stop about 15 feet away from it, the squirrel shook his head and ambled off. Hamsters are okay on their own. The camel is Roman Catholic to boot which makes it worse. Dianna reminded me of a horse, never much a fan of hers she should have soldiered on when Charles had a fling on the side and said nothing. Just ordered Ant Off from Amazon.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:06 pm

I was never keen on Diana either, but she was treated horrendously, and when she inevitably rebelled they called her "mad", but that man slept with his mistress on his stag night, she didn't have the decency to step aside, and that poor girl was supposed to put up and shut up?.
I use ant powder from wilko if I get them, they are attracted to sugary things, Billie swear?, goodness!, that's not a very good example to set her eggs. Seriously though, I would never have a potty mouthed parrot, and humans who swear are just lazy, there are so many decent alternative words. ;)

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:02 am

Bad news Billie laid an egg last night and this morning l saw she had a prolapse a large bulge from vent. Thank good ness the vets had an appointment available and a friend was able to take me in his car. I had to leave Billie at the vets. The vet said he would push the protrusion back and reduce her vent with a stitch, but if that does not work he would have to operate, fortunately l put money aside for such an emergency a it will cost £100 to push the protrusion back and another £200 for an operation. The vet also said he would give Billie a hormonal injection to stop any more egg laying.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:13 am

Aww, poor little girl, but if he can stop her laying, at least that's a bonus. I hope she doesn't need an op, surely a local anaesthetic could be used?, but then I daresay birds are too likely to bite, fidget, or fly. Most vets charge a consultation fee as well, but she's worth every penny.
So, has he told you to remove the nest/eggs et al?, goodness, I would miss Sanjay like crazy if he had to stay in hospital, my thoughts are with you both.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:45 pm

Update: Billie is home she had an hormone injection the prolapse was pushed back and her vent stitched l have to watch that she poops without straining, the vet put her to sleep while he carried out the work he said he could not discover any more eggs in her ovaries but he has gvien me to medicines to adminstered twice a day in the corner of her beak,
Some hope! One is anti inflamatory and the other anti boiotic. She quite likes egg biscuit if l cannot hold her still enough to put the medicine into her beak l might give her a small piece of egg biscuit saturated with the medicnes as second best. I showed her the syringe she was quite interested but when l pushed the plunger she skedaddled quickly.
I have to keep her vent moist but she objects strongly to my squirting her bottom. And there was something about sugar water to reduce the swelling if she starts to protrude again l have to phone the emgency number. All this cost £354
a good job l put money away for such an emergency. I have to take her back monday for the stitches to be taken out that will cost another £39. The vet said there was only a 80% chance this would work and if it does not then he will have to operate and remove her ovaries. I hate to think what that will cost but when you love someone cost does not matter. The vet said to let her keep her eggs she might sit on them and that will keep her mind off the healing.

What a day!

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:11 pm

Big sigh of relief!, Oh, thank goodness!. Personally I would get her back to full health, then Definitely get those ovaries removed, neither of you need or deserve all that stress.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:33 am

I have to keep her vent moist but she takes large does of Umbrage when l spray between her legs. She was sitting on her upper perch so l quickly prepared the syringes one is horrid the other sweet and syruppy, yesterday she smacked her lips after a doze so l was able to give the medicine without any problems but as soon as she saw me preparting the syringes she nose dived to the bottom of the cage l tried to get some into her beak, but no way hosea! So l squeezed the syringes out onto a spoon because likes supping from spoons but she only took half of the doze so l put yogurt on that spoon and she ate it all up but tomorrow l shall bribe her by offering the yogurt spoon and then grabbing her to pump her medicine into the back of her beak, and then she can have the yogurt. Wicked! If her vent heals and the hormone injection works l see no reason not to let her lay next season but l would have to let the vet know if she lays more than 5 eggs. She pooped three times today each time a biggish dollop and no straining, but she has not eaten much today the vet wants me to wean her off seeds onto pellets Harrisons but l told him that l tried to get her on Harrisons before but she refused touch any and l wasted my money £16 a bag a previous vet told me l would have to perservere for up to 2 years which l thought to be very wrong. what gets me they do not have Harrisons in the wild, have l got it wrong and Harrisons grows on trees? She is about the proper weight, and has a varied diet including seeds but l do add 10% of Kaytee pellets, not that she eats them. Removing the ovaries would be big life theatening operation and cost ????????!

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:00 pm

Here we go again, vet versus owner, they can be so captious at times!, Sanjay Will Not eat pellets either, Ringnecks are Seed Eaters! And like to forage for fresh seeds in fresh fruit and veg, or raid flower heads (sunflowers amongst others), I have watched little tits raid my lemon balm plants for the seeds. The anaesthetic is the tricky part of any surgery, the guy who invented the calibrated anaesthesia machine was our expert witness when we sued that vet in '94. Next year Billie will be a year older, does egg laying abate with age? Or do hens continue until they are worn out?, there is also the risk of Osteoporosis (bone thinning), so maybe you need to think about it, as for the cost, a kitten can be spayed for £55 at vets 4 pets, so how much dearer can a wee birdy be?

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:27 pm

Ask me another do, l have no idea if she will grow out of egg laying just to say the vet said he could find no more eggs in Billie's ovaries. But that is a bridge l can cross if i have to, now she knows when it is medicine time by diving to the bottom of the cage l managed to lure her to the top wuth some yogurt in a spoon then l was able to grab her by pretending to tickle her neck and holding her firmly while l pumped the horrid tasting medicine in,she took the lot and then whenl reached for the nice tasting medicine she wriggled free how ever lmanaged to get someof it into her beak but this morning lik a lamb she took the lot. Aslo she gived me a witheringl;ook when l spray water between her legs.
This morning l gave her some yogurt after the sweet tasting medicine and she pulled a face so this afternoon l gave he some egg biscuit and then the yogurt, She had a nap lunch time covered up but wanted to be covered up at 3 but l made her wait until 4.30, she was asleep even before the she was covered!

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:08 pm

I did a bit of googling, and there seems to be an easier, less risky method of sterilisation for birds. (hens).
I'm sure Billie will get into the medication routine, and maybe whatever it is your'e spraying her with (salt water?) feels cold, and that's why she isn't keen, you could maybe warm it with a drop from the kettle.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:53 am

When l had my ears syringed the nurse was quite surprised that I asked for warm water, oh yes Billie has warm water, and she is not alert enough in the morning to dodge the syringe but this afternoon she flew to my shoulder and went round the back on my neck out of reach and as I had an urgent need to inspect the plumbing the smell was quite intolerable and she flew to the clothes horse where she was vunerable to the syringe. Both went home and she was only too pleased to go back into the LR where she had some yogurt. She tuts when l spray between her legs but I have to keep the stitches moist. I told her this morning "Half Way" its down hill from now on. I thought it might be a good idea to reduce the number of eggs to five and l took 4 out but she cried so l put them back later she went down to count them but otherwise she is just not interested in them. I forgot to mention that Parrots is out mostly big parrots although there is an intersting letter from a lady with a male Alex who loves to climb inside cereal boxes, the alex not the lady! Plain water l thought if she preens she could pick up an over dose of salt so l decided not to spray her with salt water. The vet is not keen on ovary removal he said the out come was very poor. A friend took me to the vet and bought me back but when they phoneed to say she could be collect he took me and brought me home again. He has said he would take me on Monday for the stictchea to be taken out, l have bought a nice box of Thornton's chocks and a card as a thank you gift. I have some other friends who offered to feed and water Billie if l have to go into hospital. My next door neighbour walks his dogs at the same time as l take my walk but in the opposite direction, and l spoke ot him offering to take his dogs round round the park if for some reason he was not able. He said that was vey kind.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:12 pm

My next door neighbour offered me her wee dogs to walk, but tbh, the responsibility is greater with someone elses, I love Thorntons, so your friend should be pleased!, Yankee candles make a nice gift too, albeit a bit pricey. Billie seems much better, it's funny how she wants her eggs but doesn't bother to sit on them. On Monday, ask the vet if hens grow out of laying with age, female dogs don't go through a menopause as such, but become more asexual with age. I hope plain water will do the trick, with dogs it's the opposite, sutures have to be kept dry, we used Sterzac powder, the stuff used on human babies navels.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:38 am

What are Yankee candles? If I Remember I will ask the vet but l think it could years yet. As soon as Billie saw me coming with the syringes she took off and land on the back of my neck I had to sweet talk her down, She tried to bite me I said "No biting." I got the nozzle of the syringe into her beak but as l pushed the plunger she pulled away so we had to have a refill and it happened again but the third time it went in. The second syringe is the nice tasting one but out of principle she put quite a resistance eventually that went in, she got a reward of chicken bits she ate a couple, she even turned her nose up at some yogurt. I shall be glad when all this over, however she seems to be healing nicely. I keep spraying her vent area to keep it moist.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:06 pm

Nearly there, hopefully after Monday home nursing won't be necessary anymore, I would love a quid for every aftercare I have given over the years, on one occasion, due to unhygienic practice by a vet, one of our German Shepherds ended up with gangrene in a wound, and I had Weeks of concentrated hydrogen peroxide syringing and application of antibiotic lotion to apply twice a day. What a little minkey! There you are trying to help her, and getting the run around!. Sanjay went all pale white and unnecessary when I described Billies treatment!,

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:39 am

I forgot to say, Yankee Candles are the best and loveliest scented candles, ideal as gifts for diabetic, lactose intolerant friends, people who cannot eat choccies.
Goodness, there are a lot of treatises on here!, I put in a comment, and lose the will to live trying to read the reams of reply!.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:05 pm

There is nothing like contention to spark off a debate. Billie has Baytril to ward off infection, and metcom to cut inflamation both have done their job. Billie was tickled pink that Sanjay should go all white. She goes to the vet tomorrow to have her stitches out, she is such a sweetie l offer her yogurt on the end of a teaspoon but when she has had enough she pushes the spoon away, she does the same with my hand when l try to give her the medicine. She had a good soaking in the bathroom under the shower this morning before l went to church and then did some skinny dipping in the dog's water bowl not that there is a dog. Madam was cooking curry this afternoon and she turned up the volume of her radio l tried increasing the volume of my TV but in the end i put a tape on my hifi really loud she got the message and turned her stuff down.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:18 pm

Maybe Her ears need syringeing, these younger folk should realise, their music is for their pleasure, and not everyone elses annoyance. There was a police car outside this morning, which meant much.rubbernecking from us two, I hope neighbours didn't think they were here!. My late brother in law was from Burma, he and his family fled from Burma to India barefoot, one step ahead of the Japs, anyway, he ate curry every day, I could never understand why my late sister never got tired of it, personally, I dislike spicy food, apart from heartburn, I like to be able to taste my food, and curry masks the flavour, it was originally invented during the Raj, to mask the smell of meat which had gone off.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:07 am

This new web page has no where to report a post for obsenity. Well Billie has been to the vet and been given a clean bill of health but l have strict instructions that is if a swelling appears again to bathe it with a solution of sugar and water which will reduce the inflamtion. but if the does not work bring her in. It could mean a big operation. There is an excellent book about the elephants in Northern Burma called "Elephant Bill." About the war and nips. Our pet shop sold Nips for cats called "Fishy Wishies" not that the cats were called that but the nips were.

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:46 pm

Obscenity?, where? Who from?, there must be a troll lurking!. Sugar water seems an odd choice, don't you think?, especially with the heat sugar generates, I use it as a facial scrub when I run out of my usual stuff. I stocked up on some lovely fresh fruit and veg from Lidl today, found some baby cucumbers, which himself likes to eat And shout at, I tell him it's rude to talk with his beak full, but he takes no notice of me, sigh. That decorator still hasn't sent his quote or replied to my messages, so I will contact another one tomorrow. I like the Dusky Lory on the cover of Parrots mag, the colours are gorgeous, and there were a couple of questions from Alex owners. I hope Billie makes a full recovery, I really do, but if not, you will need to put all your trust in the vets surgical skills.

AJPeter · Post by **AJPeter** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:11 am

The post under yours is an example of obscenity. The vet said l was to use the sugar water to reduce the swelling.but if she had another prolapse then it would mean a big op, so l shall save like mad but all of a sudden big bills are coming in.
The Housing Officer came today for a Health and Safety check and she said l had too much junk who would clear my flat if l died, beading in mind l rented it unfurnished? I nearly asked her is she expected me to came back but l had no intention of going yet, and she replied "Nor did Prince!" She wanted to see the gas safety check certificate but l could not tell her that l had binned it. Bille said nothing until it was time for the HAO to leave and Billie borke out into song whether to say than goodness she is going l do not know,

sanjays mummi · Post by **sanjays mummi** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:13 pm

Well, here I am at last!, after several attempts.

I keep the gas safety check sheets in my file, but now we don't need them, its all kept by the HA online, You should have replied "hardly! I'm no drug addict!", she sounds quite sarcastic. Anyway, still no decorators quote and its been two weeks. As I told you in an e mail, I reported the porn link to mods, but nothing has happened to remove it,