Alexandrine and Ringneck parakeet

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:07 am

kyria wrote:"But do note they have also found that we are closely linked to a fly with their tests .. so ?

Science is always finding fault in it's testings and correcting itself.

I also came across that article but perhaps you misunderstood it. Based on the mapped genome, humans are more closely related to fruit flies than we are to nematodes.

Post by **kyria** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:13 am

Yes I guess so, as I edited my last post to say, you would know far more than I and its nice to discuss and learn more.

I just think that science is only at the beginning, but I do know that just because they are scientists they are not past making mistakes, we must keep in mind they are researching and learning.

I can't imagine what they will come up with next.

giantfoot_truck · Post by **giantfoot_truck** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:20 pm

So if it is possible you will support it? Have you heard of Bestiality? Humans have sex with animals for pleasure or money derived from pornographic materials they sell. The possibility of producing the offspring doesn't justify the act.

The Galah and the Tiel are both birds. Humans and Gorillas are both Primates. Where do you draw the line?

I have heard many human have sex with beast in pornographic site before, but it doesn't mean they are doing it for knowledge, these crazy people do it for fun and money, not for knowledge, so its far away from what Im talking about, Im talking about science here, did YOU ever see human produce offspring from animal???

Galah and tiel may be both bird, but they are both parrot species which mean it is possible for them to produce offspring, while us human and gorilla may also be both primates, but human and gorilla are of different species which mean we can never produce offspring, plus human intelligence can not even be compared to gorilla, its like more than the furthest of the far the difference is, while galah and cockatiel have almost the same brain, there are many other proof so that human and gorilla can never ever produce offspring, its all from your logic skill.

I guess you have never heard about the African slave trade

Im talking in general here, it only happen in very very few country, and thus it happen only to slave, unlike bird and gorilla and all animal, which almost everywhere you can see them in cage, like; zoo, pet store.

So you are now a genetics expert also? How sure are you they will not produce any offspring? Have you experimented it already? You know I won't because I do not support senseless hybridization.

Aren't you the same person who said breeding a Blue IRN to a White IRN will produce white-headed Blue Pallids?

Please don't take this personally. I love colorful debates. And I'm not the type of person who will shy away from such.

I have never experiment it before, but just use your logic skill, us and gorilla are far far far far far far (how many time do I have to repeat this) away and can never ever produce offspring, do you speak their language? can you live how they live? do you think you can fill your need by living gorilla lives?

P.s did you ever heard news about gorilla produce offspring with human before? from all these thousand and thousand of years, before we even born? none of such thing could happen.

Yes Im the same person who ask about the blue/white IRN, but Im asking about BIRD WHICH ARE BOTH PARAKEET, which is different from gorilla and human. And you are right Im wrong about the blue pallids, but that doesn't mean you know everything better than me.

Colorful debates? Yes I love it too, we are just sharing each other opinion here, no offense are given.

Donna · Post by **Donna** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:52 pm

35 yrs ago, there was a certain monkey that tried to have his way with Jane Goodall while she was living with them. Luckily, she resisted his charms.

Donna

faust1200 · Post by **faust1200** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:53 am

depois do prazer wrote:
faust1200 wrote:You are speaking about all captive animals now. What does that have to do with crossbreeding IRN's? And that gorilla analogy isn't even worthy of a response. There's nothing wrong with the OP wanting to know about cross-breeding IRN's. If I wanted to hear someone preach about morality and values I would go to church. As it stands, the OP simply wanted to know about cross-breeding IRN's...Why do we have to suffer through your moral holy-war because of it?

You don't have to read my post any more than I have to read yours. If you are suffering reading my post, then perhaps you need to step back and learn the proper way of listening what others have to say and put everything into proper perspective and understanding the fact that other people have opinions too just like yourself.

IMRAN asked for opinions and opinion is what you will get from me. I'm not trying to be a hero like giantfoot put it. I was just saying what I think just like everyone else did. I am a realist besides being a naturalist. The opinion of one person is nothing but a fart in a tornado.
answered.

Yes a fart is an apt description of your posts. Thanks!

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:56 am

Im talking in general here, it only happen in very very few country

Very few? lol. Slavery and slave trade happened in every single civilization from the Egyptians to the Mayans to the African slave trade that encompassed an entire continent.

but that doesn't mean you know everything better than me.

I didn't say I did. You just assumed it.

Just to add another perspective. In some countries (such as in parts of Australia), hybridization of birds is illegal and anyone caught could face hefty fines and jail time with all your birds confiscated. Seems like even governments realize the seriousness of the situation and recognize the possible environmental and economic impact of hybridization.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:59 am

Yes a fart is an apt description of your posts. Thanks!

I guess THOU art running out of arguments and resorting to personal attack? You must have suffered more than I thought :lol:

... so much angst in your posts. Just relax dude. This is just a message board.

By the way, THOU means you.

faust1200 · Post by **faust1200** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:39 am

depois do prazer wrote:

Yes a fart is an apt description of your posts. Thanks!

I guess THOU art running out of arguments and resorting to personal attack? You must have suffered more than I thought ... so much angst in your posts. Just relax dude. This is just a message board.

By the way, THOU means you.

Omg quit farting!

Donna · Post by **Donna** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:10 am

Poor Faust!! Can't win for loosen

Now you went and personally attacked one of the smartest members here (do prazer) When are you going to learn?

Opinions are like a**holes everybody has one and they usually stink and yours are really stinking up the board. Now with that being said we are still entitled to our opinions.

You might want to go some where else and play your little games because I don't think any member here will give you the time of day any more.

Sorry people just some gas that had to pass. LOL

Donna :lol:

Post by **Lauren** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:55 am

I'm going to lock this post before anything more is said.

Just remember, everyone is entitled to their opinion and we have a diverse community here. People from different backgrounds, beliefs and even ages. Whether we have alot of knowledge or little. We are here to have adult discussions and to learn. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone but this is gone far enough.