Choosing the right Pair :P

[Ian3660]

Hi all , My name is Ian , I am a bird keeper from Ireland. I have been viewing your forum for the past few weeks , and i have to say , this is an amazing forum and community !
I have / Had , Canarys , various finches , Budgies , Cockatiels , Lovebirds , And yellow sided green cheek conures .
My goal since the begining of birds for me , was to get myself a nice pair of indian ringneck parakeets. They are a stunning bird.
I hear you need more than one pair to breed them is that true ? , I was thinking of getting one pair for a free flight i have , it is 8 foot by 6 foot by 6 foot , there is also an inside section. Is this big enough to comfortably house one pair ? , I know websites say "you can house them in ...." But is this big enough for them to fly around etc ? .
My next question lol , you will be sick of answering me , I was hoping that if they bred , i would handrear some of the chicks for family members and friends , Seeing as i would only be getting one pair , i would be interested in getting a pair that could possibly produce various mutations of chicks . what i mean is that in the clutch could be chicks of different colours . I was thinking maybe a Lutino to a blue , or a df violet , but df violets are rare enough here haha . .....To be honest im not really fussy , im just bieng breedy , trying to get alot of colours , knowing i can only get one pair . I love their little red beaks and orange eye rings : P, Can anyone advise me on my questions ? , I really appreciate any response , ........By the way Anyone else from Ireland here ?

[Ian3660]

well they will be for pet purposes only , unless i was unable to handrear and had to rehomeas breeding birds . basically all my birds are aviary birds but all if the are tamed so they can be held . its just id really like a pair where both birds are bright , diffetent colors such as lutino , or a blue etc.
hoping they may produce chicks of afew different colours

basucally what colour pair would produce the biggest veriety of coloured chicks ?, a mutation that really shows the orange eye rings and red beaks

[sheyd]

basucally what colour pair would produce the biggest veriety of coloured chicks ?, a mutation that really shows the orange eye rings and red beaks

You may or may not have trouble breeding with tame/pet (IRN) birds- most times it is the cock that you'll have trouble with- anyhow, if you are successful, from a Creamino (TurquoiseBlue Ino) cock, and a Green/Blue hen-
You'll get TurquoiseBlue, Blue, Green, Albino, Creamino & Lutino chicks.

[Ian3660]

Thank you , They are usually not tame when i get them , they just become reasonably tame from interacting with me ,
Thanks for getting backt o me so quick , By the way , what colour is the bird in your profile pick ? , stunning colour

[Ian3660]

go for a turq pallid cock in cobalt and a green/blue hen.

Thanks , and what would the outcome of their chicks be ? , i appreciate the response

by the way , im trying to google afew pics of them but there is such a veriety of mutations appearing , would yu mind uploading a pic ? , if you cant thats no bother

[Skyes_crew]

This is the bird molossus speaks of



You can view many different beautiful mutations here http://home.wanadoo.nl/psittaculaworld/ ... rameri.htm

My personal choice would be a turq violet pallid cock X green/blue hen

Results would be

% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
25.0% 1.0 green violet(sf) /turquoise(parblue) pallid
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /pallid
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) /pallid
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 pallid /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 violet(sf) pallid /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) pallid

[Ian3660]

This is the bird molossus speaks of

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My personal choice would be a turq violet pallid cock X green/blue hen

Results would be

% from all 1.0
25.0% 1.0 green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
25.0% 1.0 green violet(sf) /turquoise(parblue) pallid
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /pallid
25.0% 1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) /pallid
% from all 0.1
25.0% 0.1 pallid /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 violet(sf) pallid /turquoise(parblue)
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid
25.0% 0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue violet(sf) pallid

Wow , that is a stunning bird , when someone says green / blue , are they saying either or , are they saying green split to blue ?
Now , trying to find a bird like this in Ireland , will be fun ........and expensive , haha

[Ian3660]

what would be the best bird to pair with a lutino hen ? , What male would give the best possible outcomes ? , widest verity ? , I love lutinos lol

[Skyes_crew]

It means green split to blue your choices on what to pair with a lutino hen are a matter of preference. But your results will be more splits than actual visuals. For example if you pair a turquoise cock to a lutino hen your results would be all green males split to creamino and all green hens split to turquoise. If you could get your hands on a turquoise pallid your results would be a bit better. With a lutino it would be better to have a cock to breed with I think. Or even better a blue split to Ino cock. If you pair a blue split to Ino cock with a lutino hen your results would be 50% males green split to blue Ino (albino) 50% males lutino split to blue 50% hens lutino split to blue and 50% hens green split to blue. That's a decent starting point

[sheyd]

Thanks for getting backt o me so quick , By the way , what colour is the bird in your profile pick ? , stunning colour

No worries and he is Blue.

Honestly, if you're a fan of what I call the 'pet colours' (lno severely limits what you can do at least visually) then your better off sticking to the colours I mentioned above- (but you could add Pallid into that mix)

So,
TurquoiseBlue Pallidino cock x Green/Blue hen:

Boys
1.0 blue /ino {blue}
1.0 green /blue ino {green}
1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /ino {blue with green patches}
1.0 green /turquoise(parblue) pallid
1.0 blue /pallid
1.0 green /blue pallid
1.0 turquoise(parblue)Blue /pallid

Girls
0.1 Lutino /turquoise(parblue) {yellow}
0.1 Albino {white}
0.1 Lutino /blue
0.1 Creamino {white with yellow}
0.1Green pallid /turquoise(parblue) {light green with yellow head}
0.1 blue pallid. {light blue with white head}
0.1 Green pallid /blue
0.1 turquoise(parblue)Blue pallid {light blue with yellow to green patches and head}

http://psittacula-world.com/EN/Mutations/P-krameri.htm

[Ian3660]

thank you , final question now i promise lol , the reason i wasnted a pair that would prduce different colour chicks , is tjat afte seeing this pictire i couldnt pick a certain color

and by the sounds of it that pair covers most of them ,

anyways ... my quuestiin
are all yellow and white birds lutinos and albinos , or can so

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me have the black eye ?. thanks

[sheyd]

That pic is of juvenile birds- their eyes are still dark, and their colours seems to be enhanced (read photoshop).

Better if you go to a reputable breeder and see the mutations for yourself, as pictures (even unmodified) sometimes do not tell the whole story.

[Ian3660]

i was definately thinking there was something done to the colours as i could find no other photo with the same Extreme colors.
Thanks for all the help , I really lok forward to getting a pair , Thanks again everyone