My pairings for the 2012 season

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:10 am

Hi all here is todays update, finally managed to get my updates back on track

Pair 1 - here is todays pic - Day 16

Pair 5 - here is todays pic - Day 13

Pair 6 - here is the pics sent by the buyer - Day 29

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:45 pm

Hi all here is an update for today (Wednesday 26/09/2012)

Pair 1 - here is todays pic - Day 17

Pair 4 - Found 3 eggs in the nestbox when I inspected today

Pair 5 - here is todays pic - Day 14

Brought the chick indoors to be handreared as I have decided to swop the mother for 4 cockatiel youngsters with a friend of mine. I will be handrearing this chick and keeping it in remembrance of the dad which I lost and the mum which I now swopped, this pair of ringnecks was the first pair of birds that I purchased when I first started keeping birds 3 years ago

Here in the next pic you can see by comparision with my hand at 14 days being the only chick being fed by one parent, this chick has grown well, the food in the crop is from its mother feeding it. I took it out just after lunch time and left the crop to empty before feeding it tonight and it ate very well, took 5mls of feed.

Pair 6 - here is the pic sent by the buyer - Day 30

I'm expecting the eggs for Pair 2 and Pair 3 to hatch soon, so I have my thumbs crossed that all 6 eggs from both pairs will hatch and survive and be fed by the parents as all the eggs are fertile

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:20 am

Hi all here is an update for yesterday 27/09/2012 (thursday)

Pair 1 - here is the days pic - Day 18

Pair 3 - found 1 chick had hatched and the second egg halfway cracked, so I used a toothpick and helped the chick out, surprisingly both the chicks are red eyed so I suppose they could be green cinnamon babies or something more, time will tell, the 3rd egg was starting to crack so should have hatched by today, will check once I get back home today from work.

I know Johan will be just as excited as I am about Pair 3's eggs hatching. Just a quick question, what are the colour of the opaline babies eyes at birth(red or black) I know that on Zahir Rana's website he mentions that opaline should have black eyes, so just want to confirm

Pair 5 - here is the days pic - Day 15

This chick eats very well, currently feeding 8mls

Pair 6 - here is the pics sent by the buyer - Day 31

So far all chicks have green feathers

Thanks
Lushen

Johan S · Post by **Johan S** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:39 am

You are right, I'm very excited for you about pair 3!

As to your question, opalines have black eyes at birth.

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:18 am

Hi all here is an update for Friday (28/09/2012)

Pair 1 - here is the days pic - Day 19

Pair 3 - the last chick hatched and it is also red eyed, any guesses as to what colourd these chick might be - Day 1

Pair 5 - here is the days pic - Day 16

Pair 6 - here is the pic sent by the buyer - Day 32

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:50 pm

Hi all sorry for the late updates, worked this weekend, so didn't get much time to go online

Here is an update for Saturday (29/09/2012)

Pair 1 - here is the days pic - Day 20

Pair 2 - when I checked on friday there was 3 eggs, and when I checked on saturday, there was 3 chicks which surprised me as this hen is one of the hens which is very skittish and will come out the nestbox as soon as she hears me in the backyard, and will only go back into the box, when I finish feeding all my birds and have gone out of sight. I was expecting at least 1 red eyed chick from this lot, but unfortunately, all black eyed chicks

Pair 3 - here is the days pic, mother seems to be feeding well - Day 2

Pair 5 - here is the days pic - Day 17

Pair 6 - No pic was sent by the buyer for today - Day 33

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:03 pm

Hi all here is an update for Sunday (30/09/2012)

Pair 1 - Day 21 + Pair 5- Day 18 - took out the chicks from pair 1 today for handrearing and put them together with the chick from Pair 5, all chicks have leg rings on so there will be no confusion about which chick came from which nestbox, here is a pic for the day with all 5 chicks in on box

Pair 2 - here is a pic for the day - Day 1

Pair 3 - here is a pic for the day, I checked the nestbox and found only 2 chicks, the 3rd chick was missing, not sure if it died and the mother threw it out or if she ate it, will check through the shaving today to see if the chick is under the shavings, it could have been the chick which I helped out the egg, and my scent could have got onto it and the mother may have killed it, but I highly doubt that as all 3 was alive yesterday, first time for me to see a chick dissappear from the nest, anybody with similar experiences - Day 3

Pair 6 - No pic sent by the buyer for today - Day 34

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:05 pm

Hi all here is an update for today

Pair 1 - Day 22 + Pair 5 - Day 19 - here is todays pic, the chick on the top left is the green chick from pair 5 and the rest are from pair 1, For Eshana here you can see the difference in size from the bigger blue chicks(top right and bottom right) as compared to the smallest chick(bottom centre)

Pair 2 - here is todays pic - Day 2

Pair 3 - here is todays pic, went through the shavings and still can't find the 3rd chick, so I'm still confused about that one as the other 2 chicks are being fed quite well by the mother - Day 4

Pair 6 - here is todays pics sent by the buyer - Day 35

Thanks
Lushen

Eshana · Post by **Eshana** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:50 pm

Hi Lushen

There sure is a marked difference in size amongst your babies. Incredible....the little one sure has a lot of catching up to do

. I am equally mystified at the disappearance of your chick. Amazing, there is absolutely no sign of what happened to it. If the mum ate the chick, surely there would have been some blood evidence, but the box is absolutely clean and, why would she kill that chick when she is taking such good care of the others?

But it is so sad too....that poor baby just wasn't given a chance...
Thanks again Lushen for your wonderful updates....

Warm Regards
Eshana

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:10 pm

Hi Eshana, the little guy/girl has a lot of catching up to do although he/she is only a few days younger than his/her siblings, so as you can see that size difference is uncontrollable in the same nest and it all depends on how the parents feed and who they feed more to.

Well as for the chick that has dissappeared, there must be some reason behind it which I can't explain, but can only guess what could have happened.
The chick could have died and the mother could have ate it
The chick could have died and the mother could have threw it out of the nestbox, this I find hard to believe cos she never even take the eggshells out the box when the eggs hatched, I had to remove them, and that could have triggered here to eat the chick or not feed it and it could have died because my scent could have gone onto one of the chicks when I was removing the eggshells or when I helped the 2nd chick out the egg.

I doubt that either parent are deliberate chick eaters as the other 2 chicks are fine and being fed well, so still not sure what happened, my guess is as good as yours

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:01 pm

Hi all here is an update for Tuesday (02/10/2012)

Pair 1 - here are some pics for the day - Day 23
First pic is of the 2 bigger blue chicks

Second pic is of the 3rd blue chick(bottom left) and the chick from Pair 5(top right)

Third pic is of the smallest blue chick

This chick was digesting food very slowly and shivering, so seeing that I don't have a brooder or an infra red light, I asked Carmen if she can grow this chick for me for a week or two as she has as light, I'm so thankful that she was able to help me out. First thing I'm going to make myself after this season is over is a brooder with a light and water holder to keep young chicks in so that they don't feel cold, another lesson I have learned from this is that I should have only taken out the 2 bigger chicks from the parents and allowed them to grow the 2 smaller ones for a while till they were big enough for me to cope with.

Pair 2 - here is the pic for the day - Day 3

Found one chick dead under the shaving with no food in its crop, of the other 2 chicks, 1 has quite a bit of food in its crop whilst the other doesn't have much

Pair 3 - here is a pic for the day - Day 5

The 2 chicks that are left are being fed well and they have grown

Pair 5 - here are some pics for the day - Day 20
Ok before I post pics I would like to say that when I initially pulled this chick out the nest I noticed that it had pinkish feet and light coloured nails and didn't think much of it until now, the first pic shows the feet and nails

Second pic shows the back of the bird with its pins on the wings and tail, I must point out that the yellowish on the pins was due to the flash and not what the pins look like

Third pic is of the rump and tail pins, the tail pins start with a slight bit of bluish at the base and most of the pin is off white, but if you notice clearly there are yellow tufts coming out just above the tail pins

Fourth pic is off the head, here if you look closely you will also notice yellow tufts on the head

Final pic is of the flight pins, they start of half bluish at the base and are half off white till the tips, similar to that of a green feather quill/pin but much lighter, could this be the cinnamon factor making the pins look lighter

So the parents which where sold to me as a green/ino cock and a lutino hen have more in their genetic makeup that just that. So anyone with suggestions of what the genetics of this chick could be?

Pair 6 - here are the pics sent by the buyer - Day 36

Thanks
Lushen

Eshana · Post by **Eshana** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:21 am

Hi Lushen

Your littlest baby looks just like the baby I lost. Absolutely emaciated and very cold. I am praying the baby makes it, but with Carmen, you have left the baby in wonderful, caring hands.
You mentioned building a brooder. I would be so grateful if you could give me an idea on how to build one. They are rather expensive to buy. Please explain what materials I would need for a basic brooder. My hubby is an engineer so I am sure he will build me one if he has an idea on what to do.

Cheers
Eshana

PS: Thanks again on your tutorial on genetics. Really enjoying it!

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:49 am

Hi Eshana, when I build my brooder after breeding season, I will put up a DIY thread with pics so that others who want to build one will have some idea of what to do.

The little baby is definitely in good hands with Carmen, next time I'm not going to take all the babies out at once, will take out the bigger chicks and leave the smaller ones

Thanks
Lushen

Eshana · Post by **Eshana** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:19 am

Thanks Lushen

A DIY thread on making a brooder is an excellent idea and will benefit all.

Cheers
Eshana

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:37 pm

Hi all here is an update for Wednesday (03/10/2012)

Pair 1 - here are pics for the day - Day 24
First pic is of the biggest chick

Second pic is of the second chick

Third pic is of the third chick

Fourth pic is of the smallest chick that is with Carmen

Pair 2 - here is the days pic - Day 4

Found another dead chick in the shavings today, such a dissapointment but this is what you can expect with a young hen that's breeding for the first time, fortunately the last chick is being fed.

Pair 3 - here is the days pic - Day 6

Pair 5 - here is the days pic - Day 21

Pair 6 - no pic sent by ther buyer for the day - Day 37

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:39 am

Hi all here is an update for Thursday(04/10/2012)

Pair 1 - here are pics for the day - Day 25
First pic is of the biggest chick

Second pic is of the second chick

Third pic is of the third chick

Fourth pic is of the smallest chick that is with Carmen

Pair 2 - here is the days pic - Day 5

Pair 3 - here is the days pic - Day 7

Pair 4 - I found another egg in the maroon bellied conure nestbox and since they have already cracked there first 2 eggs, I have decided to take the 3rd egg I found today and put it with pair 4's eggs for incubation, it unfortunately also has a slight crack, so I'm not expecting that this egg with hatch a chick, its the smallest egg of the lot

Pair 5 - here is the days pic - Day 22

Pair 6 - no pic sent by the buyer for the day - Day 38
The buyer has unfortunately not sent anymore pics, so I won't be doing any more updates on these chicks unless he sends more pics

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:41 am

Hi all here is an update for Friday(05/10/2012)

Pair 1 - Day 26 + Pair 5 - Day 23, I had to go to Durban for the weekend so Carmen help me to feeds my birds, so here is a pic of the 3 bigger chicks of Pair 1 and the 1 chick from Pair 5

Fourth pic is of the smallest chick that is with Carmen

Pair 2 - here is the days pic - Day 6

Unfortunately the mum has even stopped feeding this chick, so I asked Carmen if she would like to try fostering this chick under one of her hens whose eggs have started hatching as this baby was going to die if left with her mother who isn't feeding her

Pair 3 - here is the days pic - Day 8

Pair 4 - Found another maroon bellied conure egg and put it in pair 4's nestbox, once again they are the 2 smaller eggs, Pair 4's eggs seem to be infertile but won't be removing them unless I get more maroon bellied conure eggs which I will replace them with

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:42 am

Hi all here is an update for Saturday(06/10/2012)

Pair 1 - Day 27 + Pair 5 - Day 24, here is a pic of the 3 bigger chicks of Pair 1 and the 1 chick from Pair 5 currently being looked after by Carmen

Fourth pic is of the smallest chick that is with Carmen

Pair 2 - here is the days pic - Day 7

Here is a pic of the chick which is being fostered with Carmens chicks which have hatched, you will notice that although this chick is supposed to be about 7 days old, it looks the same size if not smaller than Carmen's chicks which have just hatched, and that's due to the money not feeding properly.

Pair 3 - here is the days pic - Day 9

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:43 am

Hi all here is an update for Sunday(07/10/2012)

Pair 1 - Day 28
No pic taken for today of the 3 bigger blue chicks

Pic of the smallest chick that is with Carmen

I have swop this chick with a cash difference with Carmen for an Albino chick which she is going to wean for me and I will use the albino for breeding purposes in the future

Pair 2 - here is the days pic - Day 8

Here is a pic of the chick which is being fostered with Carmens chicks

Pair 3 - Day 10
Was unable to take a pic as I was in durban for the day

Pair 5 - Day 25
No pic taken for today

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:44 am

Hi all here is an update for Monday(08/10/2012)

Sorry for not posting any pics for today but I worked a long shift today and got home late, will post some pics tomorrow

Pair 1 - Day 29
No pic taken for the day
Babies are all growing fine and feathers coming out well

Pair 2 - Day 9
Unfortunately this chick did not make it, I would like to thank Carmen for trying and I know that she is more sad than me about losing this chick, but this is something I expected might happen as the chick was too small for age and left too long with her biological mother who wasn't feeding it before I took any action. I wanted to give the young hen a chance to learn how to feed her young, but unfortunately she failed so in future I will need to taken action from the very first day that she hatches her chicks and does not feed

Pair 3 - Day 11
No pic taken for the day
Babies are growing well, eyes have started opening, can't wait to see what colour they will be

Pair 5 - Day 26
No pic taken for today
Baby is growing well and from the feathers that are coming out I can tell that this is a cinnamon baby so the dad was actually a green/cinnamon-ino and not just a green/ino, amazing what you can learn about genetics. To prove the Dads genetics, I will have this chick surgically sexed and if its a female, then my assumption would be correct, if it turns out to be a male, then I would have to look at the mothers genetics, but for now I would say that the dad was a green/cinnamon-ino and that this baby is a hen

Thanks
Lushen

SCB 22 · Post by **SCB 22** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:57 am

Hi Lushen ,

You dont have any Dom edge babies or rainbow babies at the moment?
Have a friend from JHB thats looking, and i did say I would find out what you have available.

Thanks

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:59 am

Hi. SCB22 I have 2 babies that are growing up from my pairing of Dominent Edge Blue Cinnamon Male to Lutino female, both babies have red eyes, so not sure what colour they are going to be, I am however keeping both babies for myself but will let you know in the future if I get visual dominent edge birds

Thanks
Lushen

Johan S · Post by **Johan S** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:18 am

SCB 22 wrote:Hi Lushen ,

You dont have any Dom edge babies or rainbow babies at the moment?
Have a friend from JHB thats looking, and i did say I would find out what you have available.

Thanks

Your friend looking for a pet or to breed with the bird? Might be able to help depending on the answer.

SCB 22 · Post by **SCB 22** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:07 am

They are wanting to introduce new blood lines to their breeding at the moment, but are more than happy to take a baby and wait for it to mature, as they are in no rush.

Johan S · Post by **Johan S** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:12 am

If it is for breeding, I can help. Don't have handraised birds. Send me a PM.

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:08 pm

Hi all here is an update for Tuesday(09/10/2012)

Pair 1 - Day 30 + Pair 5 - Day 27
Here is a pic for the day

The 2 bigger blue chicks are going to their new homes today, the 3rd chick will be going to his/her new home next week, also you will see a lutino chick which I took from Carmen for a friend who booked a lutino from me, but due to me not breeding any lutino chicks, I'm thankful to Carmen for being able to get me a lutino chick to sell to my friend

Pair 3 - here is a pic for the day - Day 12

Pair 7 - Checked their nestbox as the hen was in the nestbox quite frequently, found 1 egg in the box, so not sure when she started laying, will check to see if she lays any more eggs and keep you guys update

I have noticed Pair 1, Pair 2 and Pair 6 mating a few times, so time will tell if they have a second clutch, but even if they don't I'm ok with that and willing to wait for next season

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:17 am

Hi all here is todays update

Pair 1 - Day 31
Here is a pic of the 3rd chick which will be going to its new home next week

If the buyers of the other chicks send pics, then I will post them here

Pair 3 - here is a pic for today - Day 13

Pair 5 - here is a pic for today - Day 28

As you can see this chick is definitely cinnamon green

Pair 6 - here is a pic sent by the buyer for the day - Day 44

Pair 7 - Checked their nestbox today and the 1 egg which I found yesterday is gone, nowhere to be found, so its either she cracked it and removed it or she ate the egg, both birds being 1 year olds, this can be expected, but she is still sitting inside the nestbox, so I'm going to leave them to be and not disturb them for a week and see what happens

Thanks
Lushen

Eshana · Post by **Eshana** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:32 am

Hi Lushen

Your birds are looking great. So sorry about your littlest one not making it, but I've come to realise that the first feeds in the first week from their mum is so important for their survival. Unfortunately in some cases the baby has to be reomoved from day 1 to ensure its survival, which must be rather difficult....I can't imagine how difficult it must be to handle such a fragile baby....

.... That is why I'm so glad I have you, Molossus and Carmen to turn to for any future help I may require if placed in such a situation

I am thoroughly enjoying the genetics tuition site. Looking forward to the next lesson. Keep up the good work.

Warm Regards
Eshana

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:08 pm

Hi all here is todays update

Pair 1 - here is the pics for today - Day 32
Here is a pic of the 3rd chick

Here is a pic of the smallest chick that now belongs to Carmen

Pair 3 - here is a pic for today - Day 14

Pair 5 - here is a pic for today - Day 29

Hi Eshana, its good that you are enjoying the lessons on the genetic calculator, but this is just the start and there is a lot more to go with future lessons. With regards to the chicks that I have lost, that all come in the package when breeding birds, and the reason I enjoy keeping and breeding birds, is that it is challenging and educational. As you can see I have documented everything as it has occured so that others who want to get into breeding can first read through this thread and know upfront what to expect when breeding ringnecks, so that they can make an informed decision as to whether they would like to start breeding ringnecks. Lots of people think that people who breed birds make a lot of money, but that is not always the case, as a bad season can bring loss rather than profit. So for me breeding ringnecks is a hobby, the money is a bonus

Thanks
Lushen

Eshana · Post by **Eshana** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:46 pm

Hi Lushen

Keeping and breeding ringnecks is a joy as I have discovered over the past year, and with it, also comes sorrow, when you lose a bird. It is also a lot of hard work and one requires a lot of patience...but the reward surpasses all. I have become so enamoured with mutations and the various colours available, that I think I have been giving Carmen a headache

. But I am thoroughly enjoying the experience....
I am ever so grateful to both you and Carmen, for the pictorial lessons you guys provide daily. Thank you so much for the time and effort your'll put in to help us novices.

Warm Regards
Eshana

Johan S · Post by **Johan S** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:30 pm

Eshana wrote:I have become so enamoured with mutations and the various colours available

Eshana, and to think there are more to come that isn't even listed on the genetic calculator.

It will take some years to understand their interaction with the other mutations so that they may be included in the correct place. Then they need to get the appropriate names, but it'll hopefully happen in the not too distance future. Exciting times!

McmillanBirds · Post by **McmillanBirds** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:08 am

Eshana wrote:Hi Lushen

Keeping and breeding ringnecks is a joy as I have discovered over the past year, and with it, also comes sorrow, when you lose a bird. It is also a lot of hard work and one requires a lot of patience...but the reward surpasses all. I have become so enamoured with mutations and the various colours available, that I think I have been giving Carmen a headache . But I am thoroughly enjoying the experience....
I am ever so grateful to both you and Carmen, for the pictorial lessons you guys provide daily. Thank you so much for the time and effort your'll put in to help us novices.

Warm Regards
Eshana

Hi Eshana, no headaches here

, I think I must give other people headaches with my questions as I am sure you have seen with some of my other topics. We all have to start somewhere, we all have questions and I think we all never stop learning.

Lushen, the baby I have taken will be going to a new home today. I have asked them to send daily updates so I can forward them to you. I have it at work with me today and everyone is going goo goo eyes over him

Best to all
Carmen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:17 pm

Hi all here is the update for Friday 12/10/2012.
Was unable to take any pics of my chicks as I worked a 12 hour shift on this day

Pair 1 - Day 33
No pic taken for third chick

Here is a pic of the 4th chick that Carmen has now sold

Pair 3 - Day 15
No pic taken for today

Pair 5 - Day 30
No pic taken for today

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:20 pm

Hi all here is the update for Saturday 13/10/2012.

Pair 1 - Day 34
Here is a pic of the 3rd chick

Here is a pic of the 4th chick that Carmen has now sold

Pair 3 - Day 16

Pair 5 - Day 31

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:21 pm

Hi all here is the update for Sunday 14/10/2012.

Pair 1 - Day 35
Here is a pic of the 3rd chick, this baby went to his new home today, so if I get any updated pics from the buyer in the future, I will update you guys

Pair 3 - Day 17
No pic taken for the day as I finished work late

Pair 5 - Day 32

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:22 pm

Hi all here is the update for Monday 15/10/2012.

Pair 1 - Day 36
Here is a pic of the 4th chick that Carmen has now sold

Pair 3 - Day 18
Looking at the pins coming out, it looks to be 1 lutino and 1 albino chick, will know for sure in a weeks time

Pair 5 - Day 33
I forgot to take a pic for the day, sorry

Pair 7 - look into the nestbox and found the hen was sitting on 3 eggs, she seems to be incubating well as I hardly see her come out the nestbox, also find that the cock bird frequently goes into the nestbox, probably feeding her in the nestbox, so I guess giving them some privacy for a while without disturbing them helped

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:23 pm

Hi all here is the update for Tuesday 16/10/2012.

Pair 1 - Day 37
Here is a pic of the 4th chick that Carmen has now sold

Pair 3 - Day 19

Pair 5 - Day 34
Sorry once again I forgot to take a pic of this chick for the day, this is what happens when you work all types of shifts, or maybe its just me getting old, so please excuse me for not taking a pic

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:25 pm

Hi all here is the update for Wednesday 17/10/2012.

Pair 3 - Day 20

Pair 5 - Day 35

I forgot to mention that this bird is sold, I decided to sell it as I was made an offer on the baby and thought about it and agreed to sell, as I decided that if I wanted to go foward and get better mutations, I can keep too many babies and if I wanted a green cinnamon in the future for my breeding program, mature birds are not hard to come by, so it has been paid for and the buyer will be collecting this chick on Saturday 20/10/2012

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:26 pm

Hi all here is the update for Thursday 18/10/2012.

Pair 3 - Day 21

Pair 5 - Day 36

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:27 pm

Hi all here is the update for Friday 19/10/2012.

Pair 3 - Day 22

Pair 5 - Day 37

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:29 pm

Hi all here is the update for Saturday 20/10/2012.

Pair 3 - Day 23

Pair 5 - Day 38

The buyer collected this baby, so if she sends me any pics, I will update you guys

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:30 pm

Hi all here is the update for Sunday 21/10/2012.

Pair 3 - Day 24

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:31 pm

Hi all here is the update for Monday 22/10/2012.

Pair 1 - Day 43
Here is a pic of the 4th chick sent by Carmen on behalf of the buyer

Pair 3 - Day 25

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:32 pm

Hi all here is todays update
I'm finally back on track with my updates

Pair 3 - Day 26

So from the pics I can now say that I have 1 lutino chick and 1 albino chick, which means that the parents genetics are now as follows

Dominant edge blue cinnamon cock is split ino
Lutino hen is split blue

So with the new found genetics of the parents, this is what they are capable of producing

1.0 blue edge_dilution(sf) cinnamon /ino
x 0.1 ino /blue
% from all 1.0
12.5% 1.0 blue ino edge_dilution(sf) /cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 blue ino /cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 ino edge_dilution(sf) /blue cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 ino /blue cinnamon
12.5% 1.0 blue edge_dilution(sf) /cinnamon ino
12.5% 1.0 blue /cinnamon ino
12.5% 1.0 green edge_dilution(sf) /blue cinnamon ino
12.5% 1.0 green /blue cinnamon ino
% from all 0.1
12.5% 0.1 blue cinnamon edge_dilution(sf)
12.5% 0.1 blue cinnamon
12.5% 0.1 green cinnamon edge_dilution(sf) /blue
12.5% 0.1 green cinnamon /blue
12.5% 0.1 blue ino cinnamon edge_dilution(sf)
12.5% 0.1 blue ino cinnamon
12.5% 0.1 ino cinnamon edge_dilution(sf) /blue
12.5% 0.1 ino cinnamon /blue

So I will have to have the chicks surgically sexed as they could be either males or females

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:19 am

Hi all here is todays update

Pair 3 - Day 27

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Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:41 pm

Hi all here is the update for Thursday 25/10/2012

Pair 1 - Day 46
Here is some pics of the 1st chick sent by the buyer for today

Here is some pics of the 3rd chick sent by the buyer for the day

The last pic is of the 3rd chick is together with a lutino chick that I got from Carmen for the buyer

Pair 3 - Day 28

Will change the shavings today as it getting quite messed

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Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:39 am

Hi all here is today's update

Pair 3 - Day 29
Here is a pic of them in the nestbox

Here is a pic of them in a handrearing box, while I cleaned there nestbox and put clean shavings

Here is a pic of them back in the nestbox with clean shavings

Thanks
Lushen

SCB 22 · Post by **SCB 22** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:22 am

Hi Lushen,

Are those the 2 you mentioned keeping?
Are you leaving them to be parent raised?

Do you have any other eggs due to hatch? (Love reading your updates)
Ive just been given an olive male and green female, but im sure they wont breed this year, but lovely to have some new birds in my home again.

Thanks

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:28 am

Hi SCB 22

Yes those are the 2 chicks I intend keeping and yes I'm leaving them to be parent raised as I want to use them as breeding birds in the future. I do have Pair 7 on 3 eggs but I'm not sure if they are fertile, as both the hen and cock are 1 year old birds. Pair 4 which had 3 eggs were found to be infertile, and the 2 maroon bellied conure eggs which I put in for the hen to incubate also seem infertile

Thanks
Lushen

Lushen1600 · Post by **Lushen1600** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:56 pm

Hi all here is the update for Saturday 27/10/2012

Pair 1 - Day 48
Here are some pics of the smallest(4th) chick sent by Carmen on behalf of the buyer

Pair 3 - Day 30

Thanks
Lushen