Abused Parakeet :(

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ChantelleBasson
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Abused Parakeet :(

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Firstly Hello, I’m new to this forum, and I need help desperately, I wrote a whole novel so I apologize for this length.

I have a yellow female ringneck- Karools- and I probably have her for 7-8 years minimum now, and I’m on the brink of giving her away because I’m having a hard time keeping her happy. I realise now it was a mistake getting her, because my family and I are clueless when it comes to what this bird really needs. Don’t get me wrong we did do our research and tried getting advice how to help her, so we did try our best but now it starting to look hopeless.

We got her from people who just didn’t want her because she already had deformed toes because the breeder they got her from said she was left to long in the hatchery. Basically her toes just bend inward, she walks and climbs and eat fine. So I’m not sure really why the people gave her up, maybe they knew something we didn’t. But in any case we took her because we always wanted a parrot type bird, and things went well for a while, she bonded with me especially and she’s still bonded to me. But at least a year after getting her she started plucking her feathers, and we jumped into action to try and figure out why and how to fix it and I swear we’ve been through a-z to find out what to do. We changed diets, got her vitamins, even got her a male companion (was also given to us, but unfortunately he died, also Karools didn’t care much for him), tried for mites, even had a cone placed around her neck. Simply said we’ve tried and nothing seems to work. Even our own avian vets keep giving the same advice that we try but bottom-line is, it’s been years now, Karools basically only has feathers on her head and shoulders and wings. She hardly has any tail feathers, in fact her tail is now so deformed from her biting and plucking her feathers, that some of the feathers started growing out of one shaft. And she literally bites these feathers that she starts bleeding. She screams allot too, , and I’ve read some of the other forums about this problem already so there is a few things I’ll try out.

I’m the only one that can handle her, and none of my other family members can get near her, I’ve also been gone for 3 years studying in a different city and I wasn’t allowed any pets accept my Albino Bugdie in the apartment. But I tried to coax my family in trying to tame her like I did, but this seems to be too much trouble for them. So I’m stuck with being the one that’s supposed to help her, yet I’m working now and not at home allot. So my poor Karools is really not getting the love and attention she deserves. And everyone in the family obviously just wants to get rid of her.

So my questions is, should I consider finding her a better home, would it be better for her, because I feel that at this current moment what is happening to her is bordering on animal cruelty if not already. She is a lovely creature even without all her feathers, I doubt her tail will ever heal, and so is there a possible way of amputating her tail? But the fact is I know we screwed up with her, because we weren’t prepared for this type of pet. Cats and dogs we know, but ringneck parakeets are a whole different thing. Is there any hope for Karools, can I still safe her? :|
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Re: Abused Parakeet :(

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Hey,

Let me start out to say I am really sorry about your little girl’s feather picking problems and your pain this situation has caused you. Let’s step back for one moment and look at the overall picture for one moment.

Firstly, it is a myth that parrots pick because they are bored—that is just one small piece of the pie as parrots pick for many reasons I could list on and on. Did you know that most feather picking parrots are actually highly loved, so much so, that it kills their owners to see them go through this destructive habit. What makes feather picking so detrimental to both the owner and parrot is that there is no one cure! I commend you for going to the vet over and over and trying everything under the sun to try to combat this problem—as it can be very difficult to stop once the habit has started.

As for finding a new home, that’s really up to you. If you honestly believe that you don’t have the time then I would make some hard decisions. I love the fact that you are not thinking about yourself and putting the parrot first. There should be no shame if you honestly believe you can’t handle the project, don’t have the time, and have exhausted all your resources.

I hope this helps ease some of your frustration! Please know we are all here to help should you change your mind!

Wishing you and your little parrot the best!

Best Wishes :wink: ,

IMRAN-C
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Would your family be prepared to introduce foraging opportunities for your bird? I'm not saying it will stop the plucking but it will give your bird a more fulfilled life especially when you're not home. There are some really good threads on this forum about foraging (why do it, how to do it, how to introduce foraging, etc.). Foraging can also make your bird more receptive to other people.

Ellie.
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Re: Abused Parakeet :(

Post by ChantelleBasson »

Thank you, I have to say reading my post I was rather nervous of the response. I made it almost sound like my family are these horrible animal beaters and I felt bad about the whole situation. But I really appreciate the response and I'm happy that I first consulted people with more experience with these types of birds, before I completely gave up on helping Karools. So really thank you for this.

I think my family are just less determined than I am, because Karools being more attached to me, feels threaten by the other family members so she's used to biting them unfortunately. And I've tried to teach them how to help her become more tamed around them but I think they just get annoyed easily and they dislike her because of her appearance, that she mutilate her tail and bleeds so bad at times, and the screaming. So I feel sorry that they blame her but truthfully I know that an animal’s problem is not the animal fault but the environment or the owners fault. So I'm disappointed really.

I think for now I'll first just try and help Karools be less noisy following the helpful tips I've found on this site, so that will be a start. And since I'm in the process of finding a new job in a different city I will have to move there so I think I'll take Karools with me. I'll just see if I can't find a place or a person who atleast could just take care of her when I'm working. Since I think I'll stand a better chance of finding such a place in the city than I would in my hometown. And she won’t be in the same environment as my parents. Like you said Imran-C, hard choices that I need to make, but I don't think I've really exhausted my resources yet. But if it has to come to giving Karools up for adoption I will do what is best for her. I just want her to have a happy bird life with good caring people.

And to Ellie, I have no idea what foraging even is when it comes to Indian Ringnecks, so I'll definitely take a look at that. It might just be something that can help my Karools. Thank you both of you :)
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Hi Chantelle
ChantelleBasson wrote:I think my family are just less determined than I am, because Karools being more attached to me, feels threaten by the other family members so she's used to biting them unfortunately. And I've tried to teach them how to help her become more tamed around them but I think they just get annoyed easily and they dislike her because of her appearance, that she mutilate her tail and bleeds so bad at times, and the screaming. So I feel sorry that they blame her but truthfully I know that an animal’s problem is not the animal fault but the environment or the owners fault. So I'm disappointed really.
Whilst what you've said about your family may be true, these birds will respond differently to different people. In our household we have me and my husband and two IRNs. Our girl, Janey, is extremely attached to my husband.. and you would think that would mean she's really good for him... but it's quite the opposite. There is some sort of fatal attraction thing going on and she completely misbehaves for him. I try to help him interact with her... but what works for me simply doesn't work for him. It could be because of what he has done previously, I'm not sure... For example, sometimes Janey will climb on the floor to come closer to us (she is more likely to do that when my husband is in the room). If I go up to her and put my finger in front of her, she will step up onto the finger 98% of the time... when my husband does the same thing, she refuses... and she starts biting his toes and a crazy game of chasey ensues... it is a strange sight! a 7-inch high bird chasing a 5'10" man around the kitchen bench!

I guess all I'm trying to say is that interacting with birds can be hard and what works for you may not work for your family.

I will find the threads on foraging for you and post them in another message.

Take care.

Ellie.
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Re: Abused Parakeet :(

Post by ellieelectrons »

Here are my two favourite threads on foraging:

http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... 01&p=69400
http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... =4&t=13466

There are others too but hopefully these two will be a good starting point for you.

Best wishes.

Ellie.
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Re: Abused Parakeet :(

Post by ChantelleBasson »

Hi Ellie,

Ok so foraging is exactly what foraging is :3 I've never thought about something like that, and I think it would be an excellent idea to try out. So far we've always gave Karools her food in the bowls of her cage. And I know she gets pretty bored so I've always just gave her toys to chew on, but it will be a great idea to give her something that could stimulate her for the whole day. And somehow I can see her enjoying it to find her food, she’s always so curious about stuff I bring to her cage. So I'll definitely try foraging I think she'll appreciate doing something more stimulated when I'm not around.

And thanks for telling me about Janey and how she acts differently with you and your husband that is something I'll keep in mind as well. I always thought if my family did what I did to get her tamed than they would have an easier time with her as well, so I guess I should advice them to try and see if they can find a way that works for them and Karools. And I also can just imagine how funny it is to see your bird chasing you husband, I’m always awed about how gutsy and brave these birds are. Even our cats are scared of Karools, when she’s out and about on the floor she won’t shy away from the cats, they however make sure they walk wide circles around her to get away from that beak and ‘I’m-gonna-get-you’ attitude.

Thank you very much again for the advice. I'll get right on foraging and see how that goes. I have allot more hope now for my Karools. I still worry about her tail, but maybe it would help that she's too busy with other interactive stuff that she won't bite it so much. Unfortunately where I live we don’t really have avain vets, and when we are in the city or bird parks we don’t have Karools with us to show to avain experts. So I think It would be a great idea to try and take her to an avain vet, that might be able to give that tail a look at. And maybe when Karools is happier, my family will feel happier and feel like interacting a bit more with her. But you don't know how much I appreciate the advice, and it's not even things that are too complicated to do. So maybe just doing these little changes would bring on a bigger change in my birdies life.

Thank you, and good luck with your parakeets as well.
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Re: Abused Parakeet :(

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Hi Chantelle

Good luck with Karools. I hope you see some improvements soon.

With foraging, just keep in mind that you have to introduce it slowly... You sort of have to train them how to do it. It's also good if they can see you putting the food in here. I have a number of see through foraging toys & they work well because they can see the treat inside.

Also, thought you might like to check out these free parrot enrichment ebooks found here:
http://www.parrotenrichment.com/

Ellie.
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