Interaction poll, unofficial:

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:00 am

Chamon:

Please DO NOT be offended by this post, although it is more of a compliment than anything but again I am forced to use Datsun as an example.

Lets Ponder.. Are IRNs truly one person babies?
OR
Does it depend more on how many people handle them
from the beginning, thereby US making them one person
birds?

Using Datsun as an example, one would be FORCED to believe that if an IRN is handled by many at a young age, they dont mind being handled by people, as long as there is something in it for them.

Baring in mind Datsun is blessed with being 'the families bird' and noone is scared of her and want to hold her. Heck, they've held her all her life.

Now, lets take Baby for example:

We all know even babies are biters, thereby running off any and all timid family members, which pretty much sums up my entire family (punks). So, noone interacts with her unless she is in danger except for me.
(off stand onto floor for example, then they will scoop her up with much fear hehe)

So, she is 7 months old now and if anyone tried to interact with her (while in her cage) she is VICOUS... literally. But outside her cage she will step off her stand for others or off the floor. It is mainly the cage... outside the cage they can hold her but choose not to because they have seen all of my blood so many times. She is older now and doesnt lash out for no reason, not to say she doesnt threaten a bite if she feels bitchy. But otherwise, she is a good girl... for a ringneck :lol:

She doesnt bite, she threatens a bite by bowing her head, puffing up and basically pretending you dont exist. Push her then and you'll get it. If she is tired, she is a mean bitch.

So, I was hoping to start a poll, somewhat:

Does your IRN allow many to handle him/her?

AND

If no, are you the primary, if not complete care-giver to your baby?

K, I"ll start it off...

I have a 7 month old girl that only allows me to interact with her unless she feels unsafe, she will them 'allow' others to take her to safety.

I am her only care giver, always have been... always will be.

She doesnt bite anymore but she will threaten one by: bowing her head, puffing up and pretending you arent even there.

NEXT!

*mia* · Post by ***mia*** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:28 am

Everybody in our family can handle Kalle, but he sometimes fly away when sombody tries to make him step up.
He has never bite anyone in our family..
He is born 2002..

Dani03 · Post by **Dani03** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:31 am

Prinny wil tolerate others but gives them little 'puppy eyes' as if to say please don't kill me! She will let others pet her but only down her back and never her tail. If I am anywhere near she will try her best to get back to me so I have a mommy's girl here :wink:

Dani and the lovely ms. Prinny

Mazziemom · Post by **Mazziemom** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:05 am

Mazzie prefers me to all others. She will allow others to handle her, and she really likes my oldest son. However, strangers would be attacked in a heartbeat if we didn't protect them. She must know someone for a LONG time before she consents to let them touch her, even in extraordinary circumstances.

Buddy is the king of bluff, he acts like he's going to bite everyone... and then doesn't. He does bite my husband, he does not like the competition for the job of mate.. but even then theres a good warning. Buddy wont bite anyone without drawing back into what we call his "Kung fu!" posistion... so any other threat is just all threat.

Athena

Ducky · Post by **Ducky** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:13 am

ducky has been handled by anyone who comes through the door and wants to to handle her she loves any attention,she will also jump over on me if someone else has her near me but shes will really hang with anyone i guess there are a few boys in the neighborhood that she will not tolerate though they probablly teased her at some point so they deserve it.

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:52 am

Awesome replies... when your bird threatens a bite does s/he put her head down, puff up and pretend you arent there?

Then if you persist, open the mouth but not bite. Persist further and GET IT!?

Mazziemom · Post by **Mazziemom** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:30 pm

Nope, mine are sharks... those beaks a full of giant pointy teeth and they use them with glee

.

Buddy draws back really far, so his head is above his tail.. one leg leaning way out.... it looks like he's getting ready to karate kick you. If he gets in that stance someone is getting a good bite!

Mazzie is more cruel, she's old enough to know that people are suckers. She gives folks the sweet face, head back, loving posture and then nails the crud out of them if they reach in to try and pet her.

She warns me that she's in a bad mood by lowering her head and giving a very loud "cluck cluck cluck" sound while her eyes flash like a strobe light. I know that position very well and I leave her be if she's in that mood.

Athena

Dani03 · Post by **Dani03** » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:23 pm

Ah wow Mazzie souns like quiet a character there! Makes me glad that I have Prinny. I don't think I could go through owning and taming down an old IRN...I've done it with tiels but tiels are easy (most of the time :roll:

)

Prinny has only ever bittne me once and that was when she was playing with kleenex. She does lunge and that's how I know she is being bitchy...

Dani and the lovely ms. Prinny

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:03 am

Lets see... Two main points.

1) When my birds were clipped they would be more accepting to someone else holding them.

2) Because my birds are fully flighted they would fly off rather than bite.

Kiva prefers to be on me and no one else. Yuki is happy with anyone, Growls is being moody and weird at the moment so he is avoiding everyone except Jay and my babies come to whoever holds the cup full of food.

So I would assume it depends on the bird's personality and if they were raised being handled by many people. Kiva was only handled by me as a baby so I think thats the reason he only really lets me handle him as an adult.

Post by **kyria** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:28 pm

Kai will always prefer me to anyone or anything after all we picked eachother at the breeders :wink:

, but he has my eldest daughter as surrogate, my husband is his playmate, my son is his buddy. We all get to interract with Kai on different levels. Just like a member of the family.

Strangers are just fine if I am within eye shot, they can have him step up from one person to the next , but I can see he is always shoulders out ready to escape or call for me at any moment. Not really relaxed with them but he never bites anyone.

He definately has my husband smitten with him, he has played him very well indeed, from really not caring about my silly bird to playiing with him every chance he can get, kai really tagged hubbies heart quickly. Clever Bird !

Jordan is only a few weeks home and very young, so we haven't even got to any form of bite or bluff stage yet. S/he goes to anyone that looks like they will feed her. But definately peeps more at my son. We are all handeling her/him, but leaving the important things to my son so s/he bonds with him more-so.

Cheers !

spinnergirl · Post by **spinnergirl** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:39 pm

My Besso is 9 months old and had only bitten me once...so far.

No strangers for Besso..totally freaks out and trys to flee.
Will accept step ups from my partner

Not many people visit me..and if they do the quaker is the "star". Much to the delight of all the rest of the birds!!

Eyes pin, fluffy head if mad and oh yes loud squawk or growl!

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:47 pm

I dont know... from what IM seeing... it appears IRN's are one person birds if not properly socialized with the rest of the family.

My boys are VERY afraid of Baby but hold Chief. He tries to bite sometimes but not a whole lot of biting a 'tiel can do. Although they try hehe.

Post by **kyria** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:02 pm

I am of the opinion, even when well socialise with the family from a baby, there is always a favorite.

There would also be personality clashes I guess as in all creatures. I would say it all depends on the bird, where it came from and how its handled. As you know , one wrong move from someone could loose trust instantly.

Then consider, the only person that will work every moment to care and train the bird is the person that wanted it in the first place. I think birds pick up on the person that genuinly wants to dedicate to the bird.

imho anyway :wink:

julie · Post by **julie** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:47 pm

i saw indie at the pet shop so i took my fiancee to see her at the time he said i could have her just to keep me happy.when we brought her/him home indie seemed very comfortable with him so he is pretty muchly his bird more than mine.but my 3 yr old can pat him and he goes into her room and watches dvds with her verry cute.but when my nieces come over they can pick him up as well and it just depends whos eating chips or something like that then hes their best friend.he was also believed to be about 1 1/2 when we got him and not tame we got him for 100 because of this but he came around verry quickly.

Melika · Post by **Melika** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:33 pm

Hane and Tsume will go to anyone I hand them to. Hane will sometimes lunge at someone if they're trying to take him off his cage or stand, though he's always done that on occasion.

Post by **Datsun and Family** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:27 am

Datsun loves her Mum and Dad and generally will choose us over anyone else but she will play with anyone. When she comes to work with me the kids play with her and give her kisses, she does growl when people try to stroke her but she still does that with me too.

I have socialised Datsun from day one with members of my family and the general public. She is centre of attention everywhere we go because people here are not used to seeing parrots out and about. Datsun is soooo tame when she wants to be but will bite if she gets annoyed (shes like her mum I guess :wink:

) so I am always right there. I dont want her to bite someone and give them a fear of birds, her goal is to turn them onto birds, show them what they can be and how intellegent they are.

I do believe parrots who are generalised as being one person birds can be encouraged to enjoy all people but it takes time and socialisation and the parrot has to want the attention. Datsun is a poser, a drama queen and she thrives in the spotlight.

It does NOT mean that Datsun doesnt love us most because she does, she runs to either of us if she hurts herself or feels threatened or gets upset. Just like a young child she needs her Mum and Dad but enjoys to perform for everyone and hey if you get a snuggle out of it and an ear to nibble on... BONUS!!! :lol: