indian ringneck, rupert

rupert · Post by **rupert** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:28 pm

we have a green ringneck we thought he was a she until last week when he malted grew fresh feathers with a big black ring and the red highlight has started to come along aswell. he would say hello himself but he is just learning to type so here is his pic

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:59 pm

Very cute, we appreciate the pictures and welcome to the board.

luccas · Post by **luccas** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:14 pm

HEllo there and welcome to the board miss shorrock... be sure to check out the photo forum on the main board of the page and keep updating me with the growth of that gorgeous ring of ruperts

talk to u soon . Luke

Post by **kyria** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:03 pm

welcome to the boards.

Andrea (Angie)

Bryan · Post by **Bryan** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:01 am

Welcome and nice bird :mrgreen:

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:40 am

Please shrink your Avatar to around 80 x 80 please Bryan

rupert · Post by **rupert** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:16 am

has anyone outhere got any tips on outsmarting a indian ringneck? we need to re-cut his wing, each time we accomplish this task it seems mr rupert gets smarter or just wiser....any tips would be appreciated.....even food has been flaunted his way but is no prize for this pretty birdie

ScarletKnight · Post by **ScarletKnight** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:20 pm

welcom rupert and his mommy/daddy. what i found best to cut wings is to use a soft towl and have some hole the bird and talk gently to it and clip his wings but for the first few time you need to hold him and do nothign but talk to him so he will alwasy be guessing well am i gonan get cliped or just getting hold of. whatever you donot snatch and cut make it a game if you got a lot time on you hand or willing work witht he bird might i suggest clicker training. it works great plus u can make him do tricks.
scarlet

rupert · Post by **rupert** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:46 am

seems we need to know more of this clicker training ,we will do a search to see what we can find other wise any info will be appreciated
thanks rupert

ScarletKnight · Post by **ScarletKnight** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:11 am

clicker training is a positive motivator ( mikela) lol. It simple find ure baby's fav treat click the behavior u want and treat. i had a macaw who hated humans ( bit everthign in sight) well i got him back to normal with clicker.
first thing u might want to do ure new and haven't worked with ure rin neck is to get it traggeting and then move up to steping up. to giving me ure wing high five and all that fun stuff. does ure bird step up. I was thinking of wring a intensive post about it but i scrached that idea because no1 has days to read since i havea tendency to ramble on and i wouldn't wnat our admins getting pissed off at me. if you want specific way to slicker train you can msg me or post ure specific situation as to waht does your bird already do ie step up. etc and i can tell you how to go about it with clipig their wings and stuff.
scarlet

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:16 am

ScarletKnight:

Im not even on this post wacko... you live to push my bottoms. Everyone has had their fill of you so ship up or ship out. I have warned you private by PM several times, this is in public. We all know what comes next.

*I* have the button :wink:

Actually, I think that may be your problem with me. I dont know what it is but I suggest you get yourself together.

DO NOT mistake my kindness for weakness.

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:53 am

This is a pretty good article on clicker training used for behaviour modification. http://www.natew.com/birds/articles/BehaviorModification.html
And this site is the main site that has a LOT of information on clicker training
http://community-2.webtv.net/Lincomacaws/ClickingwithBirds/

ScarletKnight · Post by **ScarletKnight** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:01 am

thank neo i m afraid to say anything about clicker training or for that matter of effect anything else in here. from now on i will keeping my mouth shut and will not post as often. I clicker train professionaly so i know a quite a few tings about the subject and knowhow to curb sertain behavior what people might encounter. anyhow good luck rupert.
scarlet
ps clicker training is a wonderful thing there are limit less positbilities if it doesn't work work for you encouter problems and need help you can pm me and if you wnat i will give you my personal email address.

rupert · Post by **rupert** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:25 am

have we missed something, any advise is much appreciated
as for rupert he does step up but more recently he would rather say step up back to you instead of actually steping up. the whole wing clipping thing is something we both are not very comfortable with ,we have been playing more and more with ruperts wings trying to make him feel more comfortable and use to having hands over his back , he doesnt mind it at all .
when we scratch the back of his neck he will actually collapse and lays down on our legs he is a champion. we just want to make life alittle easier for him and us when its clipping time, so anything that helps would be great i like the sound of the clicker will send a pm
rupert

Jade · Post by **Jade** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:07 pm

Hi,

I clip all of my birds wings myself. I hold their little bodies against mine with their head poking out the end of my palm and extend their wings with my middle fingers. I then clip and turn them around and do the other side. they will wriggle but you just maintain your hold on them. When they have been clipped, I really lay it on thick with the praising and baby talk and then I give them pre-shelled sunflower seeds (which I get from the health food shop). They see the seeds as a massive treat because I don't normally let them have sunflower seeds because they are fatty. If he gets in a mood afterwards, just don't give in to it. Just be your usual way around him until he forgets what he's angry about. That seems to work for my birds. Don't give them the opportunity to sulk.

Good luck!

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:41 am

Baby ALWAYS sulks for exactly 6 days after she gets in a mood. You can clock in on the calander. I play into it. Those days are over, she isnt a baby anymore.

surferdon · Post by **surferdon** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:40 pm

yeah my bird is exactly the same way, but not only that my dude is bluffing. Especially in the night when i come home from work. he bites as he steps up, and he even hisses at the same time, but after that he is fine. We got to show whos boss right mikaela :wink:

Do you have any advise??

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:13 am

You may be freaking Dude out. See these birds need anxiety meds hehe. Short of Xanax in their water dish, this is another thing that works with 'welcome home' biters... make sure he knows you are home. I know that sounds too simple but Daddy comes in all the time and our 5 yr old doesnt even notice but when he does it DAAAAADDDYY!!! *big higs* Kind of get my point?

Get some spray millet. Open the door and be like whats up dude, have any chicks over today or you just chilling? <offer spray millet and keep talking> then ask him to step up. He will know you are there FOR HIM and associate your coming home with getting the best treat in the world and to be held.

After a week, dont give him the millet until he steps up but let him see it. If he bites at you, you need a phrase of disapproval YOU ALWAYS USE... like 'dude chill' 'Dude no-no', whatever works for you.

For me it is 'Baby, be a sweet girl' when I disapprove. She knows.

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:41 pm

Growls is going through this bluffing thing. I think. He's a bit moody whereas last week he was mummy's Growls. I'm at werk sooo I cant do anything today, maybe tonight some one on one time will get him past this.

He's not very agressive considering he's bluffing. He's just moody. No lunging or hard biting. You might not even know he was any different. I never noticed Kiva bluffing.

jj · Post by jj » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:27 pm

Rupert,
I'm enjoying the information you're getting! Thanks everyone for the wing clipping info as well as the clicker training and resources. When I got my Yinka, her(?) nest mate was also being raffled, and he already had an obviously male neck ring and wasn't as friendly. I do realize that if Yinka is male, we may not know until (s)he is about 18 months old!

jj

rupert · Post by **rupert** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:00 pm

rupert does get pretty shitty for a day or 2 after he ralises he cant just fly over and attack me anymore, he does not even consider biting his mum but he will take massive swings at me and then starts to bounce hid head up and down saying what are you doin? followed by laughing at me like a human , it makes me think he knows what he is saying is that possable?

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:29 am

Jade:

My breeder does my babies wings and talons for free. I think he may have a little crush on me. *sigh* Crushes, those are fun. Marriage, uhm... not so much hehe.

Anyway, I saw him this weekend to check out a yellow sulfer crested cockatoo (he is unable to obtain an umbrella at the moment). I wanted that bird especially since he will give it to me for 650.00 WITH cage. But, if I buy this one... thats it until one passes so I HAVE TO GET WHAT I ABSOLUTELY WANT. So, I walked away from that bird, although it was hard. Ok, I am writting a book trying to ask a simple :?:

.

My question is: I told the breeder I was going to try to do her wings myself and he freaked. NOOOO you cant do that, you have to bring her here. One wrong move and she is DEAD... ACK!

So, second :?:

is: Is it that dangerous or is this guy locking in a way to see me ever so often? I would have someone show/tell me how to do it and how much to do, someone like you that does it themselves.

It is such a pain to take them there, have it done in that noise, unfamiliar place then gather them up (all pissed off and scared) and come home to confused... angry birds. He is good though, fast accurate and gives a great trim. The bird can flutter but somehow he makes them 'look' full flighted and they arent. Pretty cool. And, he doesnt towel. He just takes the bites and talks sweet to calm them down. He loves them, you can tell.

So that alone may be healthier for my birds, less tramatic anyway. What ya think toots?

Mazziemom · Post by **Mazziemom** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:10 am

Do you know how to spot blood feathers? Do you know how to trim nails and deal with them if you nick the quick?

Birds can indeed bleed to death from a wing and nail trim if you don't know about those things.

I'd ask him to teach you to do it, if you feel it would be easier to do it at home.

We do a lot of nails and wings here, and every bird requires close attention and care. My ringnecks are all birds who do better with being held bare handed, but its hard for some folks to restrain a ringneck bare handed.

Also, they do hold a grudge against you on occasion when you do the clip. Mazzie will sulk and pout for about an hour after I trim her... which is huge because her life revolves around being with me.

Athena

Jade · Post by **Jade** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:44 am

Mikaela:

As you know, I do all of my birds wings myself. I have clipped nails too but Chook couldn't climb and was frustrated so I have to put up with the scratches (my skin is getting thicker!!)

Anywa, the first few times I cut Chook's wings, i did it at night and had a light or a torch under his fanned out wing. I would hold him close to my body in my left hand (I am right handed) and with my right hand, extend his wing. I would then hold the tip of the wing out with my two middle left hand fingers. with the torch held between my knees or a good lamp underneath, you can see if the wing is see through. If it is, then its okay to cut it. Then switch over.

If you can see like a dark line, don't cut - its a blood vein. If you do happen to cut a vein or something, get some cornflour and dab the cut into the cornflour to staunch the blood flow.

The best thing when you first cut wings yourself, take little bits at a time until you are more confident. If the bird wriggles, just speak calmly and talk in your usual manner so as not to scare the bird. I sing to Chook and he is usually pretty good. Chuckles and Sunny like me to whistle while I'm doing it.

I always reward the birds after I have cut and I make a huge fuss over them.

I find though, that if the wings have been cut before, generally they grow out at different paces. Chooks feathers regrow haphazardly and so I can see if he has one long feather in amongst other trimmed ones. I then just cut that one feather back to the length of the others. This is because birds don't grow their wings out like hair, they replace their wings with new ones with the old cut one falling out and being replaced with a brand spanker. This way, its a lot easier to cut just one feather in line with the others than to do all in one hit.

If you want some pictures, I'll get Jamie to take them (Jeez, that'll be a challenge!)

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:00 am

I cant DO IT!

I had her there, nice new sharp scissors and clippers in hand and I just cant do it. I see where the blood feathers are but stiiiill.

My anxiety issues wouldnt let me make the first snip. Then, I couldnt even take the tips off her nails for fear of bleeding. This is just something I cant do.

If my birds died, that would be horrid. If they died by my hands, more than I can take.

I dont do my own hair because Im not a professional, therefore, Im not cutting on my baby. Leave that too, to the professionals.

I would get half way though a cut and hear MAAAAAAAMAAAA and BAM! off with an entire wing. *deep breath*

Jade · Post by **Jade** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:17 am

okay Mikaela, deep breath!! If you want to start slowly, just cut the little feathers closest to the body first. They are nearly none blood feathers. Its the ones towards the tip of the wing that are the 'scary' feathers :lol:

I'll get photos tomorrow (my time) and post them on the photo forum. I will apologise in advance though because I still haven't worked out how to shrink the photos!

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:34 am

Thanks, this is something I need to be able to do myself.

Taking a babies temp is no fun but I got through that. :roll:

Remind me of the product used to stop bleeding, please so I can run get it before hand... you know, just in case. Is it just plain ol baby powder?

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:23 am

qwik stop or something like that, failing that you can use cornflour or do what I did when Bappy broke her nail and pay $80 (after hours) for the vet to cauterise the wound.

I clip my own birds when I clip. Just test babys flight after each little clip so you dont do too much.

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:19 am

I am going to take some pics of her wing, then yall could photoshop me a line :!:

on her wing that is FOR SURE safe and I'll just do that much.

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:55 pm

** Post moved to Photo Forum **

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