Anyone heard of the Slatey mutation in IRN,S

Coastal-Birds · Post by **Coastal-Birds** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:47 am

Been looking on net for various birds and found a german site i think it is with "Slatey"
Seems to be like the reverse of a opaline where head is normal colour yet rest of body becomes greyed out(slatey).
Not much info as all in german so hard to work out what or where this comes from.
Anyone with info or a site in english about slatey,s would be great.

Thanks

Fah · Post by **Fah** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:52 pm

If you post the link I can tranlate it through. But never heard of the mutation, would be interesting to look at.

Coastal-Birds · Post by **Coastal-Birds** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:14 am

Ok ill find which website it was on.
Has hundreds upon hundreds of photos of ringnecks and different names.

Coastal-Birds · Post by **Coastal-Birds** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:55 am

Ok
Silly me on the net it has translate this page so now things are more clear,yet certain birds (he,they)refer to i have never seen .

http://www.osnanet.de/markus.ehrenbrink/home.html

Fah · Post by **Fah** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:03 am

Cool, they seem to refer to pallid as lime there. Looks like a lovely mutation to play with, would have alot of fun experimenting with it.

Sadly, things like this could possibly never make it to Australian breeding. /sigh I am sure people out there own something that they dont realise they have, and it may or may not get back into true breeding circulation... but with the internet now days, and ease of photo finding etc, its hard to find people who dont have at least some grasp on their ownership of birds.

Like anything, can only wish for some freak mutation to show its head here heh.

Coastal-Birds · Post by **Coastal-Birds** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:58 am

Well i have birds here which look like some of these birds on that sight,such as the slatey and some others.The hard part is saving the photos from that site.Can do it with a print screen and then cut the photo out and save but takes time to do this.
Also most pics are dull in light which makes it even more difficult to definately get the birds full true look.
Theres many things on that page which sort of make sence in mature and young birds i have,Such as young from a pastelgrey(c) and greygreen lacewing hen,all young seem to have yellow through there head feathers.Been trying to get good pics of my birds but soon as i go near them with a camera they seem to freak out,where as no cam they just sit there and you can see these colours easy.
When i get these birds in perfect photos ill post them up.

Thanks
Todd

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:43 pm

Slaty is a new mutation that behaves autosomal Dominant. The mutation supposedly alters the refractive index of feather keratin according to an article I came across years back.. probably from MUTAVI.

In the Blue series, the phenotype is a color midway between Grey and Blue.. somewhat Teal. I have seen several supposed Slaty birds from other breeders and some are more Blueish while others are more Greyish but all of them inherit Incomplete-Dominant to the wild-type.

For awhile I've suspected that these birds are just Grey birds with inheritable gene modifiers that affect the feather medulla (spongy zone) or perhaps a new ParGrey mutation that only partially removes the spongy zone.

This mutation only exists on IRNs and on the Agapornis Fischeri lovebirds.

Here are some pictures of my Slatys.

Three baby Slatys with a Blue sibling. Notice the Dark Blue color infused with some Grey.