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pinkdevil
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I have tried to look on the QLD National & Parks Wildlife site, but it is very hard to find any information I thought.
On the NSW site it lists birds that need and don't need a licence for.
I am in NSW and have a licence, (ready for when I can afford an African Grey
), and a licence is needed here.
I have had a quick search and found this
Maybe your bests bet would be to contact QLD National Parks & Wildlife and ask them
Their site is here
I would be very careful about what some...not all...pet shops say.
Also avoid any "bargin" or "cheap" birds as they would more than likely be diseased or illegal birds. Always play it safe and buy through a very reputable breeder. Not only is it cheaper, but they will have all the neccesary paperwork.
I am not 100% sure, but I think now proof of where the bird came from is a must. All the relevant paperwork, proof of parents etc.
I'm sure others here will be able to tell you more about it though.
On the NSW site it lists birds that need and don't need a licence for.
I am in NSW and have a licence, (ready for when I can afford an African Grey
), and a licence is needed here.
I have had a quick search and found this
Maybe your bests bet would be to contact QLD National Parks & Wildlife and ask them
Their site is here
I would be very careful about what some...not all...pet shops say.
Also avoid any "bargin" or "cheap" birds as they would more than likely be diseased or illegal birds. Always play it safe and buy through a very reputable breeder. Not only is it cheaper, but they will have all the neccesary paperwork.
I am not 100% sure, but I think now proof of where the bird came from is a must. All the relevant paperwork, proof of parents etc.
I'm sure others here will be able to tell you more about it though.
A good site to read up on, esp incase I have said something wrong...
http://www.environment.gov.au/biodivers ... -laws.html
Heya all, there is always some confusion in Australia as to rules, regulation, and what you really need in order to own, or trade, or import state to state or internationally.
At this time, you do not need, to my knowledge, a licence to own any exotic (non-native) birds.
"You don't need a licence to keep exotic (non-native) bird species. There are also 41 native species that you may buy, sell or keep without a licence." source below:
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/wildl ... ToKeep.htm
In regards to CITES level 1 birds (very rare, etc) such as African Greys, there is a serious requirement for it to be known to the Govt of its ownership.
Please find below a site about Exotic birds in Australia... about MTR (movement transaction records etc)
http://www.environment.gov.au/biodivers ... index.html
When you get your African grey, it has to... else it is regarded as illegal import stock, come with a High Interest Movement Transaction Record. Basicly, the breeder has to have three copies of this record for each of their young that hatch. One record they keep, one record you get with the bird, and the other record goes directly to the Govt. so they know its a real, legal deal.
If you dont have this, and you ever get reported, take it to a vet who does a scan for a microchip and it doesnt have one (these birds, from any half decent breeder, should come registered with microchip by default)... they are legally bound to tell the authorities, who will want to possibly check you out.
If you cant find any other infomation about what you need through what I have posted here, or you find something on the links that contradicts what I have said, please let me know, as I wouldnt mind knowing if I am wrong
Pink, not sure why you need a licence :/ Even the govt site says you dont need one. If you can let me know why NSW owners need a license it would be good. I have not sold any level one birds to NSW, however, never come across that problem before.
http://www.environment.gov.au/biodivers ... -laws.html
Heya all, there is always some confusion in Australia as to rules, regulation, and what you really need in order to own, or trade, or import state to state or internationally.
At this time, you do not need, to my knowledge, a licence to own any exotic (non-native) birds.
"You don't need a licence to keep exotic (non-native) bird species. There are also 41 native species that you may buy, sell or keep without a licence." source below:
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/wildl ... ToKeep.htm
In regards to CITES level 1 birds (very rare, etc) such as African Greys, there is a serious requirement for it to be known to the Govt of its ownership.
Please find below a site about Exotic birds in Australia... about MTR (movement transaction records etc)
http://www.environment.gov.au/biodivers ... index.html
When you get your African grey, it has to... else it is regarded as illegal import stock, come with a High Interest Movement Transaction Record. Basicly, the breeder has to have three copies of this record for each of their young that hatch. One record they keep, one record you get with the bird, and the other record goes directly to the Govt. so they know its a real, legal deal.
If you dont have this, and you ever get reported, take it to a vet who does a scan for a microchip and it doesnt have one (these birds, from any half decent breeder, should come registered with microchip by default)... they are legally bound to tell the authorities, who will want to possibly check you out.
If you cant find any other infomation about what you need through what I have posted here, or you find something on the links that contradicts what I have said, please let me know, as I wouldnt mind knowing if I am wrong
Pink, not sure why you need a licence :/ Even the govt site says you dont need one. If you can let me know why NSW owners need a license it would be good. I have not sold any level one birds to NSW, however, never come across that problem before.
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pinkdevil
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I was told by a bird breeder here that I would need a licence to own a grey etc, that is why I applied for a licence.
Since this discussion, I have "asked" a few people who actually own greys and they agree with Fah, no licence is required but more of record keeping as proof they were legally obtained etc.
Looks like I have signed up for a five year licence when I don't need one
......or.......hmmmm.....might just come in handy for something else then 
Since this discussion, I have "asked" a few people who actually own greys and they agree with Fah, no licence is required but more of record keeping as proof they were legally obtained etc.
Looks like I have signed up for a five year licence when I don't need one
......or.......hmmmm.....might just come in handy for something else then Ah
Thats why I personally do not trade in Australian birds for the pet trade. Many of the species I would like to trade in require a licence to own (whether its for trade or just to own as companion) and this puts alot of buyers off, mostly as alot of the entry level owners dont want to fuss about with govt licences.
This is also one of the reasons the Indian Ringneck is taking off so well. Its an exotic, its medium sized bird and it has all the characteristics (looks as well) of the larger stereotypical "parrot".
Some stunning Australian birds out there, just often difficult to sell sometimes following the law... there are alot of breeders out there who wont mind selling restricted Australian birds as pets to people without a licence.
At this time, I dont think a single exotic bird requires a licence, however, all level 1 (high risk / high interest) birds are quite highly regulated and tracked in either case...
If you own, or want to own a level 1 bird, put the MTR (movemeny transaction record) with your birth cirtificate or in a safe heh, along with microchip registration details, leg band ID info etc etc... I have known people in the industry who after moving around a few times, lost paperwork for honest, legitimate birds, and when checked out, they could not provide "proof" for one of their breeding pairs of Caiques... well, those birds were taken and that was that.
Thats why I personally do not trade in Australian birds for the pet trade. Many of the species I would like to trade in require a licence to own (whether its for trade or just to own as companion) and this puts alot of buyers off, mostly as alot of the entry level owners dont want to fuss about with govt licences.
This is also one of the reasons the Indian Ringneck is taking off so well. Its an exotic, its medium sized bird and it has all the characteristics (looks as well) of the larger stereotypical "parrot".
Some stunning Australian birds out there, just often difficult to sell sometimes following the law... there are alot of breeders out there who wont mind selling restricted Australian birds as pets to people without a licence.
At this time, I dont think a single exotic bird requires a licence, however, all level 1 (high risk / high interest) birds are quite highly regulated and tracked in either case...
If you own, or want to own a level 1 bird, put the MTR (movemeny transaction record) with your birth cirtificate or in a safe heh, along with microchip registration details, leg band ID info etc etc... I have known people in the industry who after moving around a few times, lost paperwork for honest, legitimate birds, and when checked out, they could not provide "proof" for one of their breeding pairs of Caiques... well, those birds were taken and that was that.