A guy in need of help :(

Ganet64 · Post by **Ganet64** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:21 am

HI all,

im new here but when i heard of this site i came here for advice... if even you can solve my problem,

i about 6 months ago got a indian ringneck, blue in color

my favourite,
but ive been trying to earn his trust for 6 months now, and i started becoming
wondorous of why its taking so long to earn it i know a few ppl who have said that it took them about 3 - 2 months, but still i cant even enter the room without him jumping to the other side of the cage, there is no distractions ever, all is kept calm, but, i cant seem to get him to trust me at all, he only eats when im not around, i know this because i still have to replace his food trays, i do know that he was born in an avery that was a little bit to overcrowded with birds, and he was not brought up being use to other ppls hands. can anyone help me !!!?? :cry:

your help is greatly appreciated

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:52 am

For starters welcome to the board.

Let me direct you to this post to begin with.

http://www.indianringneck.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=956

I recommend you visit the board often and read through old posts that apply to you and your baby.

Feel free to post if you have any questions and/or concerns.

Post pics is you have any.

jen5239 · Post by **jen5239** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:34 pm

Hey Ganet,
Welcome. Let me tell you I know how you feel. Just go thru Misc. Comments section and look for one from me titled, "Help ME! Help Me! Help Me! Help!!!!" I'm having close to the same problems you are. Mine isn't as skitty but he's pretty bad when he wants to be. :twisted:

And I still can't hold him or put my hand in to his cage. But the people on this board are wonderful and have given me lots of suggestions and help. So.. And be ready to be bit. And they bite hard and some of them--mine for instance-hang on once they've got you in their little beaks! Good luck!

Take crare,
Jennifer

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:01 pm

First off can you fill us in on how you have been trying to tame your bird maybe then we can look at what you can do different.

Also I think the biggest problem between you and your bird is fear. The only way to get past this fear is to basically expose the bird to it. So grab a pair of gloves and just hold your bird to your chest and talk to it softly, this may take a long time so keep about half an hour free. Take the bites without freaking out. Once the bird learns that you arent going to hurt it you can work on trust.

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:46 am

Everyone is my family is scared of my girls, not Chief really because the jury is still out on whether he is actually alive or just a figment of our imaginations. Not of the bites, of the wings :?:

Odd thing is, what scares them most are their wings. Yep, wings. Of course they knooooow better than to try to handle one of my girls if they are in their cage. They would walk away handless, with no eyes. My girls arent really the sweet type and they make no apoloqies. Think that movie 'The Birds'. It wouldnt be pretty.

My babies are all clipped but not chopped. Cut professionally in a way that allows them to pick themselves up from the groud a bit and to flutter off their stands and glide a few feet, landing smoothly. Which is getting annoying, time for another clip, having a hard time keeping them on their stands these days. I'll be in the middle of talking to a client on the phone and all the while Im chasing birds. They are like, you busy? Ahhh naw, continue, you have my full attention and I'll be trying to get one of them out from under the kitchen table (so annoying, you cant get them through all the legs... what am I telling ya'll for, you know)

Well, if any of my big strong men (5 in total) so much as hears wings go to flapping, UP goes the shoulders and they all bow down like a chainsaw is hurling through the air. I am standing there like an idiot saying 'Fly to Mommie, this way! Good girl!'

If they scare my ol man really good (cuz he thinks he is all cool) he is like 'Youre gonna get rid of those damn birds' and I remind him hotels in Florida rent rooms by the week and he agrees they are nice to have around. :wink:

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:00 am

Mikaela It really is a joy to read some of your posts. You have such a great sense of humor.

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:19 am

Thank you hunny

You are an early riser too eh?
No wait... time difference, I get up early. Not all that smart early.

I have to get up at 5 am to have ANY me time.

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:28 am

Morning is for the birds :p
I am up late at night and sleep in during the mornings.

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:56 am

Actually is it: Perhaps you didnt grasp the posts topic.

The topic is referring to fear hunny. On the birds part moreso than the owner but noneteless, fear is the just of it.

My post was about fear. I'll post about reindeer if I so chose.

Melika · Post by **Melika** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:58 am

Okaaaaay, but yours was fear of the bird. Not bird biting out of fear.

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:10 am

Topics often become off topic, it doesnt matter. It's hard to even remember what topic I post under because topics change as it goes along, It's all good information and I love spending hours reading it.

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:13 am

Loving the tinkerbell avatar!

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:16 am

I made it with one of those "dolls" sites. You get the nekkid girly and you dress her up and stuff. It's good fun for an hour or so.

http://www.thedollpalace.com/

Ganet64 · Post by **Ganet64** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:23 am

Firstly thanx for the replies

the first few days i let him get use to his sorroundings, im trying to let him get use to me walking in and out of the room at the moment, but he doesnt seem to get the message that im not going to hurt him... however, ive recently learned that he isnt use to contact from humans seeing as he was born in the care and presence of another few birds in an avairy, which does help me understand why hes so scared, and he only calms down when i sit on a chair the other side of the room, and do nothing, after a few minutes of calm he start screeching ... a bit too much for me to cope with
:cry:

and he doesnt stop for hours... is this a sign of lonelyness?, at the moment hes practicly in charge of me lol.

Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:57 am

Thats ok, you are doing great. This is going to take months. Realize this now.

If he will tolerate you sitting in a chair in the same room, do that. As time goes by you will be able to move the chair a little closer and a little closer.

Try to move very fluidly. Before walking in announce yourself. "hey fella, missed you today, Imma come see ya' then walk in and have a seat. Maybe bring a book and read it aloud. Then he will get to watch you move and hear your voice, thereby gaining trust.

While he is freaking out use a calm, reassuring voice and continue talking. Just say stuff like " why are you freaking out, noones going to hurt you'. Just make stuff up, tell him he is handsome, whatever.

The more time you spend near him, the less time it will take for him to realize you are his friend.

DO NOT wear red or dark pink when you visit him, it will freak him out. This issue is controversial, however, I have three and they all are scared of me when I wear red, or even dark pink sometimes. And among ringnecks, mine are as tame as they probably come.

jen5239 · Post by **jen5239** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:17 pm

I so feel your pain! My heart is sad for I know what you're going thru and how you're feeling. Feeling like you may have made a MAJOR mistake in purchasing this bird. :shock:

Well let me assure you if you have the patience you can do it. And I'm not kidding when I say this board is your lifeline! Just keep posting and asking for help and listen to what they say and you'll get thru it. Believe me! I'm proof! I was so lost with my Byndi and I kept up with the posts and ? and they've gotten me pretty far. And I've only had Byndi for 7 weeks. I wish you luck and patience. You can do this. If you need any kind of support or to vent, please feel free to "pm" me. I may not know what to do but I can steer u in the right direction!

Good luck,
Jen

Neokireina · Post by **Neokireina** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:02 pm

You should probably grab a pair of gloves and get in there and start handling your bird. After being handled having you in the room may not be so bad.

Also make sure the bird can see you clearly before you get too close to the cage, mind where the cage is situated in the room so you dont end up startling the bird.

The screaming I would assume is because the bird is instinctivly alerting other birds to the presence of danger (in this case you) Give your bird time to get used to you.

ScarletKnight · Post by **ScarletKnight** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:38 pm

millet spray have to u tried bribing. if he is young good tiem to start training. and i didn't know mikela got a third ringgy when did that happen mine is the same way bro it take time these birds are different more u spend time to him and talk to him the more he will understand and let you.