no way to tell with lovies either (lovebirds) ..

.. but my two IRN's have shown definate male behaviour pre ring .. this doesn't always happen, but like in my case, there are times when you can see, by behaviour, that they are defienately boy or girl.
This is a vid of my Kai .. displaying typical male behaviour.. arching of the head , pinning the eyes, wobbling the head, hoping along his perch etc.
http://www.dropshots.com/day.php?userid ... e=20060110
Jordan exhibits the same male behaviour (age 9 months) and they actually have little dance off together now.. its so cute.. the I am more male than you thing. (kai is 19 months)