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surferdon · Post by **surferdon** » Wed May 03, 2006 10:54 pm

I was in the kitchen doing the dishes and feeding my IRNs. i Noticed that my new IRN (who had a feather plucking problem) was growing new feathers. I was looking at them and then i noticed his chest which has a huge hard lump. the skin here feels like a callous and is more firm than the rest of his body. What could this be here are some pics, i am in such a panic, and i am supposed to be leaving in the morning for san francisco for a school trip. Please post back ASAP i wont turn my computer off till i leave!
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Mikaela · Post by **Mikaela** » Thu May 04, 2006 4:23 am

Dude, that is so not good. I dont know what it is but I'd be getting it to a vet.

I dont want to scare you but Im sure you know what hard masses usually are? I dont know how common cancer is in IRNs.

Maybe he landed hard on his chest bone really hard?

julie · Post by **julie** » Thu May 04, 2006 5:20 am

minimum infected hair folicle or when he/she has plucked scratched with beak and it blows up like that or something more serious either way it should be seen by a vet because the infection could lead to septicemia and if it is a cancerious lump the earlier it is caught and treated the better. how long has it been like that is it just since new feathers have come thru.

jen5239 · Post by **jen5239** » Thu May 04, 2006 7:37 am

Awww man!
I have no idea what to tell u, but I do hope everything is ok. You saved the poor things life cuz he was getting picked on so badly and now this. Poor bird is getting a raw deal in life. I hope you get him to a vet soon and please keep us posted.

Hugs,
Jen

Mazziemom · Post by **Mazziemom** » Thu May 04, 2006 7:59 am

Yep, it looks like an impacted follicle. Off to the vet, its the only way.

BTW, Kato's plucking started over an impacted follicle that no one noticed for a long while, and by the time they got it treated (her prior home) she had developed the habit. It's best to deal with it as fast as you can, as its painful

Athena

Newbirdmom · Post by **Newbirdmom** » Thu May 04, 2006 10:03 am

Awww I hope your baby feels better soon.

Ed Loschi · Post by **Ed Loschi** » Thu May 04, 2006 2:58 pm

It is difficult to imagine what this mass could be. I hope you are able to get it checked out by a avian vet and have it resolved happily.

When you get an anomaly like that on the skin of a bird douse the general area with alcohol to wet it down and to flatten the downy feathers so you can get a real good look at the area. Bird skin is so thin you can see through it to blood vessels, muscle, and things like that mass.

Is it in the skin or is it in the crop; maybe a developing crop problem or the breast? If you have been petting and playing with your irn and didn't notice the mass before now then it probably developed quickly and that would most likely be an infection rather than a tumorous growth.

I hope it is an impacted feather and nothing more serious.

Good luck.

julie · Post by **julie** » Thu May 04, 2006 4:51 pm

id say its more an infection because if you look at the first pics of the new bird it has a smallish lump and then it has blown up 10 times its size pretty quick.the vet will probably drain it and give antibiotics.

Dani03 · Post by **Dani03** » Thu May 04, 2006 8:42 pm

Please keep us updated on your baby...no need to give any of us un-needed worring!

Dani and Prinny

surferdon · Post by **surferdon** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:08 am

well i just got back from my trip to sanfrancisco, it was so nice, i even went to go see the parrots of telegraph hill. Well when i got home i was happy to see my bird was doing ok, it even appeared that the lump had gone away, but after like 20 minutes i noticed it was back again. I am off to the vet tomorrow first thing in the morning, i shall let you know

surferdon · Post by **surferdon** » Mon May 08, 2006 3:19 pm

ok well went to the vet and it is nothing to be worried about. the vet said that it was the craw. since my bird has no feathers there you can see it clearly. I am so happy that he is ok!!!

Post by **kyria** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:24 pm

Whew ! thank God .. I was looking at it, and I know nothing about lumps and cancer and such like the others would. I thought.. I wonder if it is and hope it is just the crop, especially when you said it was down and then suddenly up and hard again. But to suggest it's just that could make you complacent to a real issue, so I kept out of it.

Glad its all fine and dandy !

julie · Post by **julie** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:33 pm

im so glad everything is fine.when you look at the first pics that were posted it had a small lump then all of a sudden it is big.

jen5239 · Post by **jen5239** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:36 pm

I'm so happy to read that your baby is ok! Thank goodness. Thanks for keeping us posted!

Dani03 · Post by **Dani03** » Mon May 08, 2006 7:26 pm

*wipes brow* wow that must have been scary! Glad that your baby is ok! Thanks for keeping us updated!

Dani and Prinny

Ed Loschi · Post by **Ed Loschi** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:42 am

Did the vet say "craw" or crop?

The crop is basically a sac in which food can be stored and the digestive process started. It should get big when the fid is chowing down and small when it is empty--but there should never, not ever, be a solid mass in it that lasts longer than your birds digestive cycle.

If there is a persistant mass in the crop it may be an impaction of undigestible stuff that isn't passing and which can become infected.

good to hear that all is well with your bird.

surferdon · Post by **surferdon** » Tue May 09, 2006 3:09 pm

she said crop

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Good luck and best wishes.

Did the vet say "craw" or crop?