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Can A Breeder Tell If A Baby Irn is a male or female?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:08 pm
by countrygal_cc
Hello I picked up an iwanna paper today and saw an ad where this person was selling irns for 150 and up 12 different colors so I called and he was a nice guy to talk to he told me all the colors he has i never realized there is so many dif colors on irn he told me too mixed something like that I wasn't sure what that meant he had some blue ones one that is weened and ready to go I said can you tell if they are male or female he said yes he said the blue one he was pretty sure was a male. Should i believe that? Can a breeder tell if the birds are male or female cause I have read you won't know till about 2 years. The drive from here to pick up a blue one would be probably about a 3 hour drive and would take a lot of gas. On down the road I might pick up one at the flea market cause it isnt
to far away. Let me know if a breeder can tell if the babies are a male or female. Thanks, Misty

PS please overlook me if I am wrong but is a breeder the one that feeds the babies if so that's what I am wondering on the person that feeds them if they would know if an irn is male or female.
He said I could have a blue one for 250 it was going to be 300 though.


Can females talk too? Are they good talkers... He told me females can talk and it takes them about a year or more to talk he said start out by saying pretty bird. I have been saying hello, pretty bird, and my name is cupcake but I guess it's best to say one word what do you guys think?
I talked to the another lady that had an irn for sale and I ask her if female irn talked she said females irns don't talk that's why I am worried. I will like cupcake either way but I am just wondering if females can talk. I don't know what cupcake is but I am just thinking she is a female. Have any of you guys had a male to turn out and thought you had a female...

Cupcake is a real quiet bird..

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:32 pm
by pinkdevil
If the parents are different colours or have hidden colours (splits) then it is possible for a breeder to be able to tell the sex of the chicks.

For example if the male is Lutino and the hen is Blue then the chicks would be..... all the green split blueino would be males, all the Ino split blue would be hens.

The breeder in most case is the person who handraises the babies BUT not always. Some breeders pay other people to raise the babies for them (well in Australia they do), while some breeders let the parents of the chicks raise them.

Yes females can definately talk. :) I sold a female handraised chick last year to a Lady who has taught her to talk. She whistles and says a few words. The bird is almost a year old and has been chatting away for a few months now.

If you start off with simple words then once the bird has mastered that, you will find that other words will be learnt faster and more easier.

My Lutino Jasper, I called a "him" just because I always say "him" lol. When I posted a few pics of Jasper on another forum 2 years ago, everyone said a girl. When I had her DNA'd the result......GIRL!! :lol: :D

I guess besides "nest sexing" the only other way is DNA or surgical sexing. Even DNA can be wrong but I think not often. :)


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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:22 am
by greeny
A female can talk. I have a female who is trying to talk now. Her learning is delayed because I got her when she was already 6 months old and not very nicely raised.

For some reason I think cupcake looks like a male to me. Did you have cupcake DNA tested? Are you sure it's a she?

I don't know if breeders can tell the sex. I bought one bird the breeder said was a girl and I thought she was a girl up til she grew in her ring! So, they can guess but I think it's just 50-50.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:51 am
by mvd12720
i know that he breeder that i got my baby from said it is a femalse becasue of the size of the pelvis bone can they tell by that? i still want to get it DNA tested

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:25 pm
by Fah
Heya, regardless of what someone says, pelvis, attitude or the miraculous (i just knew / know its male / female) you just cant tell what sex it is :/

Regardless of the sex both boys and girls make great pets. Hens are often put aside due to their lack of ring being an "apparent" harder to sell point and peoples experience with one or two bad hens, more often than not due to bad ownership / training.

If you need to know the sex of the bird get it sexed. Sexing them is hardly expensive... $30 is the most expensive i have found in Australia and we are costly compared to countries like the USA.

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:03 am
by Raja's_mom
My breeder had all her baby's DNA"D before she sold them My boy came with a dna certificate. I paid more for him than I should have probubly but he is super healthy and very well socialized my breeder really takes the time to love and play with her babies its not just hand feeding them and putting them back in their cage she play's and loves them up and teaches them to step up before they even go to their new homes, so to pay a little more for extra time and attention is worth it to me they all have vet check up and their first vacinations also as well as being dna'd well worth the money.