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Misty CHF ?

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:26 pm
by prodigy
Misty CHF ?

Thoughts please.

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Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:51 pm
by Ring0Neck
Peter,

Whatever it is, we have it though CHFs here in Oz as well.
It'd be good to work out what it acctually is.

If you pair that bird to another that has this misty mutation i suspect you're going to get white chfs as well.

just a hunch

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:40 am
by prodigy
Ring0Neck wrote:Peter,

If you pair that bird to another that has this misty mutation i suspect you're going to get white chfs as well.

just a hunch
Ben if I paired it to another misty I would get sf and df Misty/CHF, I could then put the DF splits back to the CHF Misty female's that I have.

Lee they are very different in the nest and are even visual different out of the nest.

Below is a picture of chick from my pair 1,0 Blue CHF (misty) x 0,1 Cobalt/CHF, note the chick in the left corner of the dish (looks like 4 different colors)

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Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:52 am
by Ring0Neck
Peter,
I ment to pair it to a misty chf or misty /chf


Molossus,
i'm with you from a logical perspective, however i don't often use logic :D
It is also the reason why i am so often wrong :? which i'm ok with.
logic to me has some shortcomings, and its mainly based on what we know not what we don't know
it can impede advancement.
it was ilogical a hundred years ago to say that a 79 tonnes machine will fly like the wind.

ever since CHFs were introduced ( i assume together with this misty) every once in a while we encountered a white bird in the nest.
INO we presume. i have this thought that these white birds that pop up out of the "blue" could (by a long shot) be due to a df "misty" chf + a color like grey or violet might help or the seldomly detected edged in chfs,
grey edged misty chf or misty in df chf + a certain color?
the red eyes of chf do not help in IDing

i have a cockbird: grey masking violet /chf/ ?ino? I paired him to an indigo pallid hen to see if SL Ino is present.
I just have to allocate them a cage, i hope i can accomodate them this season.

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:16 am
by Farzz1
Peter Hi
My assumption is I cannot see the misty upfront ,however I have seen various misty’s and there is no set standard in its identification as there are so many possibilities and each one varies in the colour but the standard misty also has its own hidden gems, however take out another pic with the flash that would give you another indication of the birds hidden misty and you can compare the two physically , the greyish to violet wash would be noted on the bird and on the chf look at the bird head on it should have the greyish to violet wash above the nostrils , I will include some of my misty birds thus do a comparison with the tail wings head feet etc and thus make a conclusive decision then unfortunately you would have to test the birds from the splits or if you breed a df misty that would be enough reason to believe the misty inheritance on the chf bird
Tks S

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:17 am
by Farzz1
i cannot attach the pics for the last 3hrs last tym

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:29 am
by Farzz1
can sombody help load pics my system seems to hang

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:52 am
by prodigy
Sherwin I have compared him to a few of my Misty's and he looks the part, it would also explain the 4 different color chicks in that nest.

Below 4 of my youngsters used to compare, as well as misty greys and misty violets.

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Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:04 am
by Farzz1
Peter Hi
Are those chicks from the chf? If so they spot on misty. However if not his chicks then you need to see if the hen is not masking the misy because the odd chick out looks DF misty? What are your thoughts? If you have to deliberate between pairing to a misty again the chicks are not wasted and they would be df split chf then paired together with themselves and parent’s would result in another combination df misty/chf x df misty/chf and chf misty x df misty/chf ,that would be great food for thought and more valuable within your breeding stock
Regards S

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:05 am
by Farzz1
df misty edge and df mist blue

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:12 pm
by Johan S
Peter, why not upload a picture of the blue (misty?) CHF (was it a hen?) in the aviary next to the one where the above cock is housed? That chick showed the effect much better, esp. in the flights which are rather light.

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:02 pm
by prodigy
This is one of the daughters of the cock above

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Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:52 am
by Johan S
Yeah, that's the bird I'm talking about. Really interesting CHF IMO. Look at the flights and tail.

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:10 pm
by sheyd
Peter, was the last pic taken with a flash?

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:46 am
by prodigy
HI Shay no not at all

Re: Misty CHF ?

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:10 pm
by sheyd
Thanks Peter