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hehe anyones guess, myself and a friend have been breeding IRN's for a collective 15 years, and still no closer to being able to sex visually... no matter how hard you try and judge the character, movements, footing etc etc, posture, cant seem to get a good reliable guage on IRN's.
Only chance is a DNA test.
Look forward to hearing which it is.
Only chance is a DNA test.
Look forward to hearing which it is.
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Heya, having been breeding IRN's for years, and knowing people who have bred them for well over 15-20 years each, there are no special characteristcs that an IRN holds to define male or female as young birds.
If you are lucky, you have a good run of guessing the sex of the birds... in the end its not that hard to get a few good guesses... heck I used to try... you can only be wrong half the time.. and right half the time after all
I really wish there was a way of looking at the bird and deciding.. however IRN size can vary heavily in the species between youth looks and proportions, its all in the genes.
You 'can' have good guessing results... but in the end, it takes serious breeding season after breeding season without a big mix of birds to get a an 'average' idea of the mentality of the sexes as youths... though there are always those IRN's who act one way and turn the other... or have no act at all.
One of the best tests I have ever tried was putting my pet IRN male into the bubs cages when they are young... he seems to flirt like mad with young birds (ewww lol) and he has picked out probably 7 out of 10 as being hens (thats his odds atm)... other times he just seems to like flirting non stop with new birds... so thats hardly a correct guage as well.
Visually.. there is no way to determine one young from the other sex wise from a picture.. takes alot more than that to asume much from the mild characteristics that 'might' show male or female... there are characteristics yes... but they are mild.. and often shared by both boys and girls.
I dont mind the occasional guessing game, but really, its either time or DNA sexing that throws the results.
If you are lucky, you have a good run of guessing the sex of the birds... in the end its not that hard to get a few good guesses... heck I used to try... you can only be wrong half the time.. and right half the time after all
I really wish there was a way of looking at the bird and deciding.. however IRN size can vary heavily in the species between youth looks and proportions, its all in the genes.
You 'can' have good guessing results... but in the end, it takes serious breeding season after breeding season without a big mix of birds to get a an 'average' idea of the mentality of the sexes as youths... though there are always those IRN's who act one way and turn the other... or have no act at all.
One of the best tests I have ever tried was putting my pet IRN male into the bubs cages when they are young... he seems to flirt like mad with young birds (ewww lol) and he has picked out probably 7 out of 10 as being hens (thats his odds atm)... other times he just seems to like flirting non stop with new birds... so thats hardly a correct guage as well.
Visually.. there is no way to determine one young from the other sex wise from a picture.. takes alot more than that to asume much from the mild characteristics that 'might' show male or female... there are characteristics yes... but they are mild.. and often shared by both boys and girls.
I dont mind the occasional guessing game, but really, its either time or DNA sexing that throws the results.
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I feel that behaviour is the best way to get a guage on what youngsters could be, but this is generally from 6-7 months plus and behaviours usually present best around breeding season. (Again there is mimic behaviours that can confuse the issue) and it takes alot of watching and interaction to see these behaviours present. Head position when petting, feeding of other bird friends around, flaring, mating rituals etc.
But Fah is right visually especially from pics and short vids and birds that are under 6 months old is impossible to tell.
2-3 years, ring or no ring is the the only way other than DNA testing and even with DNA I would still wait the time for 100% proof.
I say Male, simply because any blue bird reminds me of my Kai and he is a male .. lol.
But Fah is right visually especially from pics and short vids and birds that are under 6 months old is impossible to tell.
2-3 years, ring or no ring is the the only way other than DNA testing and even with DNA I would still wait the time for 100% proof.
I say Male, simply because any blue bird reminds me of my Kai and he is a male .. lol.
Angie
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ok this is what i have sexed just by sight
female (because she wants her own way all the time
female (because she likes to have front spot all the time )
male ( because he lets them do what they like and sits back out of the way )
hope this helps you sex on sight. but i think you might be better off waiting for the ring appears or do a dna to be sure
female (because she wants her own way all the time
female (because she likes to have front spot all the time )
male ( because he lets them do what they like and sits back out of the way )
hope this helps you sex on sight. but i think you might be better off waiting for the ring appears or do a dna to be sure
we try
I have an albino female, and a blue 'companion' for her, who cannot be visually sexed yet, but should be able to tell after this moult. I can't tell from behaviour alone whether it's male or female, but during the breeding season the female did her 'love' dance to 'him' a few times, only to be looked at crosseyed! That's when I thought 'he' might have been a male. Is the females courting behaviour towards her companion enough to confirm that it is a male? Or is it because she was keen to breed, and he was the only other ringneck in the aviary? She did lay eggs & incubate, but the blue was probably too young to 'jump on'.
I have seen 2 female budgies try to mate, with one role playing the male. True story!!
I have seen 2 female budgies try to mate, with one role playing the male. True story!!
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