Household Poisons
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Household Poisons
COMMON HOUSEHOLD POISONS
Poisons, unfortunately, are not just the chemicals found in cleaning agents and pesticides. Many houseplants, food items, cookware and aerosols can be just as deadly. Below are listed just some of the countless substances, which have been determined to be toxic to our birds.
PLANTS:
Apple seeds
Azaleas
Bird of Paradise
Bittersweet
Buttercup
Cherry Laurel
Cherry seeds
Chokeberry
Clematis
Common Privet
Crocus
Daffodil
Deiffebachia
Dogwood
Elderberry
English Ivy
Foxglove
Four-o-clock
Honey Suckle
Holly
Hydrangea
Iris
Ivy
Jack-in-the pulpit
Juniper
Lily of the Valley
Lupine
Marigold
May Apple
Milkweed
Mistletoe
Morning Glory
Mushrooms
Narcissus Bulbs
Nightshades
Oak (acorns)
Peach Seeds
Pear Seeds
Periwinkle
Philodendron
Plum Seed
Pokeweed
Poinsettias
Poison Ivy
Poppies
Rhododendron
Rhubarb
Rosemary
Sage
Skunk Cabbage
Snap Dragons
Thornapple
Tiger Lily
Toadstools
Tobacco
Tomato Plant
Tulip bulbs
Trumpet Vine
Venus Fly Trap
Wild Cherry
Wisteria
Virginia Creeper
Yews
FOOD ITEMS:
Avocado
Alcohol
Caffeine
Chocolate
Fruit Seeds
Nutmeg
CHEMICALS:
Aerosol Sprays
Alcohol
Ammonia
Antifreeze
Bath Salts
Bubble Bath
Cigarettes
Denture Solutions
Emtryl
Fertilizers
Formaldehyde
Herbicides
Lead
Moth Balls
Natural Gas
Nitrates
Panacur
Perfume
Salt
Smoke
Teflon
Tramisol
These lists are not all-inclusive, as there are hundreds of items that are toxic to our birds in some quantity.
COMMON HOUSEHOLD PLANTS TO AVOID
Controversy over which plants are safe around birds and which are toxic continues to confuse bird owners trying to safe guard there feathered friends. Although we don’t know if each plant tested could poison all birds we believe your birds are safest if you avoid the following plants:
Arum Lily
Autumn Crocus or Meadow Saffron
Australian flame tree
Avocado
Azalea
Baneberry
Beans: castor, horse lava, broad, glory, scarlet, runner, mescal, rosary peas, precatory, navy
Bird of Paradise
Bishop’s Weed
Black Laurel
Black Locust
Bleeding Heart or Dutchman’s Breeches
Bloodroot
Bluebonnet
Bulb Flowers: Iris, Amaryllis, Daffodil, Hyacinth, Narcissus
Burdock
Buttercup
Cacao
Camel Bush
Caster Bean
Caladmum
Calla Lily
Cardinal Flower
Chaliace (trumpet vine)
Cherry Tree
Chinaberry Tree
Christmas Candle
Clematis
Cocklebur
Coffee (senna)
Coffee Bean (rattle bush, Rattlebox, coffee weed)
Coral Plant
Jack-in-the-Pulpit (Indiana Tulip)
Jasmine (Jessamane)
Jimsonweed (thornapple)
Kentucky Coffee Tree
Lantana
Larkspur
Lily of the Valley
Lily (Arum)
Coriander
Corn Cockle
Coyotillo
Cowslip
Cut leaf Philodendron
Daphne
Death Camus
Devil’s Ivy
Dieffenbachia (dumbcane)
Elderberry
Elephant Ear
Ergot
Eucalyptus (especially dried, died or treated for floral arrangements)
False heilebore
Flame Tree
Felt Plant (maternity plant, air plant, panda plant)
Firethorn
Four O Clock
Fox Glove
Glottidium
Golden Chain
Grass (Johnson, Sorghum, Sudan, Broom corn)
Ground Cherry
Heaths (Kalma, Icucotho, Peires)
Rhododendron (Mountain Laurel, Black Laurel, Andromeda, Azaleas)
Heliotrope
Hemlock
Henbane
Holly
Honeysuckle
Horse Chestnut (Buckeye)
Horsetail
Hydrangea
Ivy (English, or other varieties)
Sandbox Tree
Skunk Cabbage
Sorrel (Dockey)
Snowdrops
Spurges (pencil tree, snow on the mountain, Candelobra Tree)
Sweet Pea
Locoweed (milk thistle)
Locusts (black, honey)
Lords and Ladies
Malanga
Marijuana (hemp)
Mayapple (mandrake)
Mexican Breadfruit
Mexican Poppy
Milkweed (Cotton Bush)
Mistletoe
Mock Orange
Munkshoed
Moonseed
Morning Glory
Mountain Laurel
Mushrooms
Nettles
Nightshades “DEADLY” (black, garden, wood, bittersweet, eggplant, Jerusalem cherry)
Oak
Oleander
Parsley
Periwinkle
Philodendron (split leaf, Swiss cheese)
Pigweed
Poinciana
Poinsettia
Poison Ivy
Poison Oak
Pokeweed
Potato shoots (eyes)
Privot
Pyraceantha
Rain Tree
Ranurnculux (buttercups)
Rape
Rattlebox
Red Maple
Rhubarb Leaves
Tansy Ragwort
Tobacco
Vetch
Virginian Creeper
Wattle
White Cedar (Chinaberry)
Wislena
Yews
Yellow Jasmine
This list should not be considered all-inclusive, as there are hundreds of items that are toxic to our birds in some quantity!
courtesy of thecuckoosnest
Poisons, unfortunately, are not just the chemicals found in cleaning agents and pesticides. Many houseplants, food items, cookware and aerosols can be just as deadly. Below are listed just some of the countless substances, which have been determined to be toxic to our birds.
PLANTS:
Apple seeds
Azaleas
Bird of Paradise
Bittersweet
Buttercup
Cherry Laurel
Cherry seeds
Chokeberry
Clematis
Common Privet
Crocus
Daffodil
Deiffebachia
Dogwood
Elderberry
English Ivy
Foxglove
Four-o-clock
Honey Suckle
Holly
Hydrangea
Iris
Ivy
Jack-in-the pulpit
Juniper
Lily of the Valley
Lupine
Marigold
May Apple
Milkweed
Mistletoe
Morning Glory
Mushrooms
Narcissus Bulbs
Nightshades
Oak (acorns)
Peach Seeds
Pear Seeds
Periwinkle
Philodendron
Plum Seed
Pokeweed
Poinsettias
Poison Ivy
Poppies
Rhododendron
Rhubarb
Rosemary
Sage
Skunk Cabbage
Snap Dragons
Thornapple
Tiger Lily
Toadstools
Tobacco
Tomato Plant
Tulip bulbs
Trumpet Vine
Venus Fly Trap
Wild Cherry
Wisteria
Virginia Creeper
Yews
FOOD ITEMS:
Avocado
Alcohol
Caffeine
Chocolate
Fruit Seeds
Nutmeg
CHEMICALS:
Aerosol Sprays
Alcohol
Ammonia
Antifreeze
Bath Salts
Bubble Bath
Cigarettes
Denture Solutions
Emtryl
Fertilizers
Formaldehyde
Herbicides
Lead
Moth Balls
Natural Gas
Nitrates
Panacur
Perfume
Salt
Smoke
Teflon
Tramisol
These lists are not all-inclusive, as there are hundreds of items that are toxic to our birds in some quantity.
COMMON HOUSEHOLD PLANTS TO AVOID
Controversy over which plants are safe around birds and which are toxic continues to confuse bird owners trying to safe guard there feathered friends. Although we don’t know if each plant tested could poison all birds we believe your birds are safest if you avoid the following plants:
Arum Lily
Autumn Crocus or Meadow Saffron
Australian flame tree
Avocado
Azalea
Baneberry
Beans: castor, horse lava, broad, glory, scarlet, runner, mescal, rosary peas, precatory, navy
Bird of Paradise
Bishop’s Weed
Black Laurel
Black Locust
Bleeding Heart or Dutchman’s Breeches
Bloodroot
Bluebonnet
Bulb Flowers: Iris, Amaryllis, Daffodil, Hyacinth, Narcissus
Burdock
Buttercup
Cacao
Camel Bush
Caster Bean
Caladmum
Calla Lily
Cardinal Flower
Chaliace (trumpet vine)
Cherry Tree
Chinaberry Tree
Christmas Candle
Clematis
Cocklebur
Coffee (senna)
Coffee Bean (rattle bush, Rattlebox, coffee weed)
Coral Plant
Jack-in-the-Pulpit (Indiana Tulip)
Jasmine (Jessamane)
Jimsonweed (thornapple)
Kentucky Coffee Tree
Lantana
Larkspur
Lily of the Valley
Lily (Arum)
Coriander
Corn Cockle
Coyotillo
Cowslip
Cut leaf Philodendron
Daphne
Death Camus
Devil’s Ivy
Dieffenbachia (dumbcane)
Elderberry
Elephant Ear
Ergot
Eucalyptus (especially dried, died or treated for floral arrangements)
False heilebore
Flame Tree
Felt Plant (maternity plant, air plant, panda plant)
Firethorn
Four O Clock
Fox Glove
Glottidium
Golden Chain
Grass (Johnson, Sorghum, Sudan, Broom corn)
Ground Cherry
Heaths (Kalma, Icucotho, Peires)
Rhododendron (Mountain Laurel, Black Laurel, Andromeda, Azaleas)
Heliotrope
Hemlock
Henbane
Holly
Honeysuckle
Horse Chestnut (Buckeye)
Horsetail
Hydrangea
Ivy (English, or other varieties)
Sandbox Tree
Skunk Cabbage
Sorrel (Dockey)
Snowdrops
Spurges (pencil tree, snow on the mountain, Candelobra Tree)
Sweet Pea
Locoweed (milk thistle)
Locusts (black, honey)
Lords and Ladies
Malanga
Marijuana (hemp)
Mayapple (mandrake)
Mexican Breadfruit
Mexican Poppy
Milkweed (Cotton Bush)
Mistletoe
Mock Orange
Munkshoed
Moonseed
Morning Glory
Mountain Laurel
Mushrooms
Nettles
Nightshades “DEADLY” (black, garden, wood, bittersweet, eggplant, Jerusalem cherry)
Oak
Oleander
Parsley
Periwinkle
Philodendron (split leaf, Swiss cheese)
Pigweed
Poinciana
Poinsettia
Poison Ivy
Poison Oak
Pokeweed
Potato shoots (eyes)
Privot
Pyraceantha
Rain Tree
Ranurnculux (buttercups)
Rape
Rattlebox
Red Maple
Rhubarb Leaves
Tansy Ragwort
Tobacco
Vetch
Virginian Creeper
Wattle
White Cedar (Chinaberry)
Wislena
Yews
Yellow Jasmine
This list should not be considered all-inclusive, as there are hundreds of items that are toxic to our birds in some quantity!
courtesy of thecuckoosnest
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ive read that feeding IRN's some flowers is ok. This is from a book - 'Parrotlopaedia - A Guide to Parrot Care'. Some of the things in the list of 'safe food' in this book are in your list of bad stuff;
Blackberry flowers and berries,
Chickweed,
Dandelion leaves and flowers,
Elderberry flowers and leaves,
Evening Primrose,
Hawthorn Berries,
Honeysuckle flowers and Berries,
Milk Thistle,
Red Clover,
Roses and rosehips,
Rowan berries,
Seeding grasses,
Violets,
Yarrow.
it does say that Buttercup, Daffodil, Foxglove, Iris, Periwinkle and Rhododendron are very poisenous for birds.
Would you feed your birds the flowers and berries because the book says so or would you stay clear?
Blackberry flowers and berries,
Chickweed,
Dandelion leaves and flowers,
Elderberry flowers and leaves,
Evening Primrose,
Hawthorn Berries,
Honeysuckle flowers and Berries,
Milk Thistle,
Red Clover,
Roses and rosehips,
Rowan berries,
Seeding grasses,
Violets,
Yarrow.
it does say that Buttercup, Daffodil, Foxglove, Iris, Periwinkle and Rhododendron are very poisenous for birds.
Would you feed your birds the flowers and berries because the book says so or would you stay clear?
IMO I wouldn't feed them any of the flowers except the dandelions only if they haven't been treated with chemicals.
For the most part the parrots that eat these flowers live in the wild and they can be toxic to them and that's where the clay licks in the Amazons and tropical rainforest come into play. They go to these Clay licks and eat the clay to absorb all the toxins they get from these plants. Unfortunately our caged birds do not have these clay licks available and that's why I would not feed certain foods they eat in the wild.
Just my opinion
Donna
For the most part the parrots that eat these flowers live in the wild and they can be toxic to them and that's where the clay licks in the Amazons and tropical rainforest come into play. They go to these Clay licks and eat the clay to absorb all the toxins they get from these plants. Unfortunately our caged birds do not have these clay licks available and that's why I would not feed certain foods they eat in the wild.
Just my opinion
Donna
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I am kind of leary of General parrot books when it comes to learning about our IRN. They are helpful in many ways but seem tso broad. I see other parrot type birds at the store eating food that I know Buddy couldn't handle. I haven't found any IRN books in the store so I am going to shop online for one today. I am so thankful for this site and all the posts that really has helped us learn how to take care of our IRN.
Hi,
I saw that some herbs are on the list. Such as sage and parsley, I order my dried mix of greens and herbs for birds from a web site that has all organic food for birds. And I add it to my IRNs food, becouse she is a picky eater. But there is green herbs like parsley and a lot of other natural organic herbs and greens plus even garlic.
The clay the wild parrots use to detox themselves after feeding on toxic plants is called ( Bentonite clay ). Parrots in the wild know where to find this clay and when to use it. It is a natural detoxifying clay. This clay can be found in health food stores and ordered online. And I have read that some breeders like to use this clay to detox there birds routinly to keep them healthy.
Should we offer this Bentonite clay to our domestic pet parrots as a natural routine health tonic?? Would they just instinctively eat it, or would they have to learn from a wild flock? I am very interested in learning as much as I can about toxins and poisons so I know what to avoid and how to provide a safe and healthy environment.
I saw that some herbs are on the list. Such as sage and parsley, I order my dried mix of greens and herbs for birds from a web site that has all organic food for birds. And I add it to my IRNs food, becouse she is a picky eater. But there is green herbs like parsley and a lot of other natural organic herbs and greens plus even garlic.
The clay the wild parrots use to detox themselves after feeding on toxic plants is called ( Bentonite clay ). Parrots in the wild know where to find this clay and when to use it. It is a natural detoxifying clay. This clay can be found in health food stores and ordered online. And I have read that some breeders like to use this clay to detox there birds routinly to keep them healthy.
Should we offer this Bentonite clay to our domestic pet parrots as a natural routine health tonic?? Would they just instinctively eat it, or would they have to learn from a wild flock? I am very interested in learning as much as I can about toxins and poisons so I know what to avoid and how to provide a safe and healthy environment.
Teflon
Hi,
One note to this (great) sticky:
Some modern gadgets - phones, PDAs are being coated in TEFLON as a premium product feature. It's done to prevent fingerprints etc on the gadget. A good example is the 'HTC Hero' phone.
I know my Alex and IRN will chew anything left lying about; you should know if your gadet has been treated, its a very recent and clearly labelled special feature.
Ian
One note to this (great) sticky:
Some modern gadgets - phones, PDAs are being coated in TEFLON as a premium product feature. It's done to prevent fingerprints etc on the gadget. A good example is the 'HTC Hero' phone.
I know my Alex and IRN will chew anything left lying about; you should know if your gadet has been treated, its a very recent and clearly labelled special feature.
Ian
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Is water from a water softener bad for bathing and drinking for my IRN??
Thanks
Thanks
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So far I have not seen anything saying softened water is bad for our birds- with evidence. Many owners give it to their birds and drink it themselves.jmlance wrote:Is water from a water softener bad for bathing and drinking for my IRN??
Thanks
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Thanks!! I give Skye RO water for drinking but I am trying to get her used to getting in the shower to wash and when I get her to she drinks allot for some reason.
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I didnt see teatree oil so I thought I'd add it. They become extremely dizzy and in some cases unconscious. I'm not sure if they can die from it though.
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I have to get back to the list every time I feed my TAG. It’s hard when you’re sitting in the living room at night watching television not to share some of that snack food with Polly. I know - I’ve been there! For the health of your bird, you really must not give him potato chips or other salty foods.
Carmel Santos
Parrot Breeders & Author of The Ultimate Guide to Parrots
The Australian Guide to Parrots
Parrot Breeders & Author of The Ultimate Guide to Parrots
The Australian Guide to Parrots
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I've found some more info on softened water related to zinc toxicity, basically if you give soft water to your parrot make sure it isn't in a galvanized metal dish. Zinc is soluble in softened water and therefore would be ingested IF in a galvanized dish.jmlance wrote:Thanks!! I give Skye RO water for drinking but I am trying to get her used to getting in the shower to wash and when I get her to she drinks allot for some reason.
http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww14eiii.htm
I think we all use stainless when it comes to metal, but just something to be aware of.
So far that's the only bad thing I've seen related to softened water.
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Does anyone know if the ink used on magazine papers is harmful. I have an idea for a toy that I want to use a magazine, but I don't want my babies to get sick. I have seen toys made out of playing cards before at bird shows, so I assume magazine papers would be ok, but i wanted to check with the experts first.
Bullet
mikey (white) and joey (blue)
mikey (white) and joey (blue)
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I noticed that mushrooms are on the list. Which mushrooms does this include? Are mushrooms that humans eat okay?
Dana
Dana
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Hi Dana
I was told that all mushrooms were off the list.
Regards
Shane
I was told that all mushrooms were off the list.
Regards
Shane
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Magazines are glossy and colour. The inks used can contain lead or other harmful chemicals. Regular black and white pages from a newspaper are fine though.3tielsåneck wrote:Does anyone know if the ink used on magazine papers is harmful. I have an idea for a toy that I want to use a magazine, but I don't want my babies to get sick. I have seen toys made out of playing cards before at bird shows, so I assume magazine papers would be ok, but i wanted to check with the experts first.
According to http://www.parrot-and-conure-world.com/ ... birds.htmlSkyesMom wrote:I noticed that mushrooms are on the list. Which mushrooms does this include? Are mushrooms that humans eat okay?
Dana
"Mushrooms are a type of fungus, and have been known to cause digestive upset in companion birds. Caps and stems of some varieties can induce liver failure."
This pretty much sums up what I've read all over the net. Fungus is a risk if you choose to feed it. The common consensus is that regular button mushrooms well cleaned and cooked are okay but still a risk.
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my friends lost their bird from it being near the iron when they were using it. small particles of teflon coating on the iron were released from the heat, and this was enough to kill it.ian1 wrote:Some modern gadgets - phones, PDAs are being coated in TEFLON as a premium product feature. It's done to prevent fingerprints etc on the gadget. A good example is the 'HTC Hero' phone.
i use ecaluptus branches for my birds (dont have much else around here!) and have never had a problem, and ive been told they make very good branches due to their dry and sturdy nature. they are strong and durable and can outlast the bird's customisation, and can be less prone to rot once dry. eucalupts often concentrate toxic oils in their leaves to prevent animals eating them.xx_sheena_xx wrote:is it the Eucalyptus's branches or leaves that are toxic?
we use RO water in our labs, but where do you buy this for the bird???jmlance wrote:Thanks!! I give Skye RO water for drinking
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Lead is especially injurious. Pets are exposed to it through many sources, including consumer products, paint chips, linoleum, and lead dust produced when surfaces in older homes are scraped or sanded.
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3tielsåneck wrote:Does anyone know if the ink used on magazine papers is harmful. I have an idea for a toy that I want to use a magazine, but I don't want my babies to get sick. I have seen toys made out of playing cards before at bird shows, so I assume magazine papers would be ok, but i wanted to check with the experts first.
Not sure about Magazines but my Ring chows on a phone book often. I did remove the front and back cover as well as anything that resembled them out. She is doing just fine and loves to eat and make a mess of the book.
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jimmyjack wrote:my friends lost their bird from it being near the iron when they were using it. small particles of teflon coating on the iron were released from the heat, and this was enough to kill it.ian1 wrote:Some modern gadgets - phones, PDAs are being coated in TEFLON as a premium product feature. It's done to prevent fingerprints etc on the gadget. A good example is the 'HTC Hero' phone.
i use ecaluptus branches for my birds (dont have much else around here!) and have never had a problem, and ive been told they make very good branches due to their dry and sturdy nature. they are strong and durable and can outlast the bird's customisation, and can be less prone to rot once dry. eucalupts often concentrate toxic oils in their leaves to prevent animals eating them.xx_sheena_xx wrote:is it the Eucalyptus's branches or leaves that are toxic?
we use RO water in our labs, but where do you buy this for the bird???jmlance wrote:Thanks!! I give Skye RO water for drinking
You get RO water from buying a system for your house. I happen to have a Kinetico K5 but there are less expensive versions you can get from Home Depot or Lowes.
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Thank you for all these posts very helpful!
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so good infos. thanks you
id like to climb nearby mt
id like to climb nearby mt
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Hi
Guys quick question
I saw in the list birds of paradise I have this plant growing about a metere or o
Away from my aviary
Could some one plz explain if or in which way it's dangerous.
Thanks
Guys quick question
I saw in the list birds of paradise I have this plant growing about a metere or o
Away from my aviary
Could some one plz explain if or in which way it's dangerous.
Thanks
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Unfortunately there are quite a few plants that fall under this name, but I believe the lists refer to these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strelitzia . The seeds and flowers are considered toxic to parrots.Shay-aus wrote:Hi
Guys quick question
I saw in the list birds of paradise I have this plant growing about a metere or o
Away from my aviary
Could some one plz explain if or in which way it's dangerous.
Thanks
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I don't know if I'm posting in the right place but Food dye is a household product.
I'm not going to name the 3 Food dyes I have read up ALOT on them(I don't want to get myself into trouble) Certain ones contain E numbers which research has shown has caused cancer,tumours'rashes'ashtma to name a few in Humans and animals. Also some contain sugar which will make the toys taste nice.
It has made me worry a lot to what toy manufacturers use.
If your like me and are overly cautious have a look online at food dye ingredients.
I have read up on PME which some are 100% natural ingredients others are not.
I am saving up for Vitacritter!
I'm not going to name the 3 Food dyes I have read up ALOT on them(I don't want to get myself into trouble) Certain ones contain E numbers which research has shown has caused cancer,tumours'rashes'ashtma to name a few in Humans and animals. Also some contain sugar which will make the toys taste nice.
It has made me worry a lot to what toy manufacturers use.
If your like me and are overly cautious have a look online at food dye ingredients.
I have read up on PME which some are 100% natural ingredients others are not.
I am saving up for Vitacritter!
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My hen alexandrine loves peppermint polo sweets but an aviary vet told me that refined sugar was bad for her, so that rules out all sweets! All the more for me! Some people say that IRN are sweet toothed, but my bird does not like cane sugar, or peanuts.
AJpeter
AJpeter
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I never really thought they were till you wrote that. My irn loves sweetcorn,grapes,strawberries all very sweet
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I've picked up another few of these pans. I had some before Gracie but thru them out. Now I read there is no PTFE or PROA in them. I loved them before. Do you think they will be ok?
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Lola 13
What on earth (Woe) is a vital critter, l thought wild dogs are called critters.
AJPeter
What on earth (Woe) is a vital critter, l thought wild dogs are called critters.
AJPeter
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ALUMINUM.
We cook with it, we use it to side our houses, some travel cages are made of it. I think Sergeant Schultz had a near-religious experience with it, but is it safe to put in my bird cages?
We cook with it, we use it to side our houses, some travel cages are made of it. I think Sergeant Schultz had a near-religious experience with it, but is it safe to put in my bird cages?
-MissK
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"Why do you want to put Aluminium in your bird cage?
AJPeter
AJPeter
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I want to lock the grate and pan so they cannot slide forward and out when the dog noses around the bottom of the cage. One of the methods I'm considering involves an upside-down letter U -shaped piece of metal. One side of the U would be going down through the grate and through a hole I would drill in the pan, and the other would go outside the cage at the back. It would prevent the pan or grate from sliding unless I removed the U. The U's I have happen to be made of aluminum. Using that would be cheaper than going out and buying stainless steel U's, even if I can find some. However, I can count on the birds to play with the U's, so they have to be safe.
-MissK
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On Billie's previous cage there was no door lock so l used a paper clip but Bilie was able to open the door so l used the hook from a plate rack which are rubber covered and hold a plate so you can hang it on the wall these are a lot tougher but it was not long before Billie had picked the rubber off but she could not undo the door! The hook is made of copper wiring.
Still a little unclear how Aluminium will help you secure the rack unless you crunch it up and stuff it into the gap
AJPeter
Still a little unclear how Aluminium will help you secure the rack unless you crunch it up and stuff it into the gap
AJPeter
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It does help if l read your email properly, the U bend; smooth Aluminium is soft but not soft enough for a bird to dent of chip bits off, but never the less she will want to lick it amd l do not know the answer is it safe?
AJPeter
AJPeter
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MissK
I have just remembered that "Justask.co.uk have a vet on line and you could ask about the aluiminium there also Northern Parrots have a vet on line.
AJPeter
I have just remembered that "Justask.co.uk have a vet on line and you could ask about the aluiminium there also Northern Parrots have a vet on line.
AJPeter
Re: Household Poisons
Smallworld wrote that Tee tree oil was posinous but Johnson's sell a plumage spray that contains tea tree oil which encourages preening, it smells nice but is it really posinous?
AJPeter
AJPeter
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Vittacritter is a parrot safe dye for toys etc,its only in America.
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Thanks Lola13.
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Tea tree oil is considered to be toxic.AJPeter wrote:Smallworld wrote that Tee tree oil was posinous but Johnson's sell a plumage spray that contains tea tree oil which encourages preening, it smells nice but is it really posinous?
AJPeter
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Johnson's recomend you do not spray bird in the face perhaps that is that their cop out if something goes wrong? But l cannot believe a large company like Johnson's can sell something that is toxic.
AJPeter
AJPeter
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Well Melika is the best here in toxicity and diet so I don't think that she is making it up, do you? Furthermore, there are many companies who sell bad products with health or safety hazard.
"Live with parrots and you learn to panic"
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Re: Household Poisons
How about Christmas trees? Is pine a concern? This will be our first Christmas with the birds. They haven't got on the tree yet, but knowing them it's only a matter of time!
Mike
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No l don't think Melika is making it up just puzzled.
AJPeter
AJPeter
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Don't worry, AJPeter, I know what you mean. How can a company put something on the market that they know is unsafe? Perhaps the oil is only unsafe digested in certain amounts. I don't know. All I know is that it is considered toxic.AJPeter wrote:No l don't think Melika is making it up just puzzled.
AJPeter
Mostly it's going to be the stuff on the tree that could post a real problem, though there are a few kinds of tree you don't want. Here's some info for you to brush up on to keep your fid safe:Achilles&Percy wrote:How about Christmas trees? Is pine a concern? This will be our first Christmas with the birds. They haven't got on the tree yet, but knowing them it's only a matter of time!
http://www.avianweb.com/christmaswarnings.html
http://lafeber.com/pet-birds/top-ten-ho ... ards-bird/
http://www.mdvaden.com/bird_page.shtml
Re: Household Poisons
My bird loves Apple seeds and he has been eating it for a while first thing that he eats before eating the Apple is its seed.
Can someone explain what's the problem with them eating apple seeds, what can go wrong? Shall I stop feeding them?
Also same with green chilli he loves the seed not the chilli itself
Can someone explain what's the problem with them eating apple seeds, what can go wrong? Shall I stop feeding them?
Also same with green chilli he loves the seed not the chilli itself
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Sorry for the delayed response!Jungle wrote:My bird loves Apple seeds and he has been eating it for a while first thing that he eats before eating the Apple is its seed.
Can someone explain what's the problem with them eating apple seeds, what can go wrong? Shall I stop feeding them?
Also same with green chilli he loves the seed not the chilli itself
It seems like there is A LOT of debate on the subject of apple seeds. While they do contain some cyanide, it is only a trace. If that was the only thing your bird ate, he would probably become ill. Some say that some seeds aren't bad. Others will point out that wild birds are known to eat some toxic substances BUT also supplement with other foods that tend to neutralise these toxins (which our birds don't have access to). So basically some say it's a myth that it can be toxic, while others staunchly believe that they should never be given. After reading much of the current evidence, I would not be uncomfortable feeding an apple with its seeds. But I wouldn't feed a lot of apple anyway, so they wouldn't be exposed to much in total.