Red Grizzled Green IRN Chicks

Sherjil · Post by **Sherjil** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:11 am

This clutch of IRN chicks were bred by a breeder in Karachi , Pakistan.

Video link :-

http://www.youtube.com/user/pakistancom ... r0grvvdC9o

dog_glenn123 · Post by **dog_glenn123** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:47 pm

They are called ADM pied with red.
There not the first ones.
Thanks Glenn

Sherjil · Post by **Sherjil** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:34 am

Hi glenn
Thanks for correcting the mutation naming... can you share some links of some mature birds of this mutation i.e. the ones with red.

dog_glenn123 · Post by **dog_glenn123** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:01 am

Unfortunatley i cant as the birds i have seen are about 6 weeks old and not mature.

Thanks Glenn

prodigy · Post by **prodigy** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:37 am

prodigy · Post by **prodigy** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:10 pm

So one year later and what have we learnt ?

So far I have identified to the following mutations that have produced Red IRN's

1) AMD Pied
2) Clear Tail
3) Ino
4) Pallid

Anyone know of any other mutations that large quantities of red have occurred ?

Regards,

Peter

prodigy · Post by **prodigy** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:23 am

OK lets get this thread going with some pictures of my Red birds.

And to short cut some of the questions:

* They are alive and did not die after 18 months
* They have all gone through the 2nd molt
* No deficiencies
* We are 3 generations down the line (the babies are red and the chicks from them are red)
* We have red in 3 different mutations ( AMD Pied, Ino, and Pallid)

Pallid with Red

Ino with Red

Ring0Neck · Post by **Ring0Neck** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:23 am

That is great achievement. Well done Peter!
What else could you share with the rest of the breeders?
As you can imagine everyone would have lots of questions and would love to see more pics.

Ben

prodigy · Post by **prodigy** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:18 pm

Hey Ben,

Here are the results of a little experiment we performed.

Tail feather form one of the babies

Tail feather bashed repeatedly with a hammer

Outcome of the experiment is that this is not some sort of structural mutation, but in fact red pigment as the color intensified when the feather structure was destroyed.

Regards,

Peter

Sherjil · Post by **Sherjil** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:11 am

prodigy wrote:OK lets get this thread going with some pictures of my Red birds.

And to short cut some of the questions:

* They are alive and did not die after 18 months
* They have all gone through the 2nd molt
* No deficiencies
* We are 3 generations down the line (the babies are red and the chicks from them are red)
* We have red in 3 different mutations ( AMD Pied, Ino, and Pallid)

Pallid with Red

Ino with Red

Dear prodigy;

Are these Inos SL or NSL or both ? Do we get red in green series birds or blue also ?

Thanks

prodigy · Post by **prodigy** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:04 am

Hi Sherjil,

The Red appears to be dominant the same as a Violet or a Grey, we have red in SL and NSLino.

In the green series it is a red and in the blue series it comes up as pinkish color.

Some pic's of new baby Pallid hens.

Regards,

Peter

Sherjil · Post by **Sherjil** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:51 am

Peter this is a beautiful looking bird & thanks for sharing the snaps

Correct me if I am wrong , below are some questions from the red bird experts :-

0) Can you tell the origin of this mutation; how did it first appear ?
1) Red is a "patterned mutation" & doesn't mask the whole body (like violet or dark factor etc), true or false ?
2) Red pattern remains throughout life ? any progressiveness or decrease with age ?
3) If dominant there must be SF and DF birds ? any reference snaps ?
4) Snaps of adult birds ?
5) How does Red show on a normal green bird ?

Regards;

Sherjil

prodigy wrote:Hi Sherjil,

The Red appears to be dominant the same as a Violet or a Grey, we have red in SL and NSLino.

In the green series it is a red and in the blue series it comes up as pinkish color.

Some pic's of new baby Pallid hens.

Regards,

Peter

prodigy · Post by **prodigy** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:01 am

Hi Sherjil,

0) Can you tell the origin of this mutation; how did it first appear ?

Yes

1) Red is a "patterned mutation" & doesn't mask the whole body (like violet or dark factor etc), true or false ?

We have moved past the pattern and are now focusing on getting a completely red bird

2) Red pattern remains throughout life ? any progressiveness or decrease with age ?

The Red remains throughout the whole life, it actually becomes more the older the birds get (the Yellow bird in the pictures is over 5 years old and its babies are already producing red birds)

3) If dominant there must be SF and DF birds ? any reference snaps ?

We are working on the DF birds at the moment

4) Snaps of adult birds ?

Yellow and the green birds above are adult birds.

5) How does Red show on a normal green bird ?

It shows from birth and looks like the green bird above.

Regards,

Peter

prodigy · Post by **prodigy** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:08 am

Skyes_crew · Post by **Skyes_crew** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:21 pm

Do you have a pic of a mature Ino w/ red? My lutino has pale red patches on his cheeks and a reddish hue to his tail feathers. Thanks

prodigy · Post by **prodigy** » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:15 pm

Hi

Pic above labeled Ino with red

Skyes_crew · Post by **Skyes_crew** » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:09 pm

Sorry...I missed that. Ill have to catch mine up and see if he has red under his wings too. Thanks again.

Michaelet · Post by **Michaelet** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:04 pm

I am sorry Michael, but I have not received your answer yet about the red berets. I hope you do can come to Arnhem as a visitor, to meet other members of this forum.

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