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Hi Willy,

I was apparently bead from:

1,0 cobalt violet / lutino(ino) x 0,1 Lutino/blue

Regards,

Peter

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Ben, Very interesting comment, as I have already used your system on my red birds and across all 3 mutations the red shows up as and ice blue color. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a6qOiSu5Kmg/UHPV81HvvwI/AAAAAAAAALE/MPN24UzaGZM/s800/pic%25202.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Uad0H35FE7k/UI...

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@Johan according to the filters

Bird 1 = Cobalt
Bird 2 = Violet or DF Violet Truq
Bird 3 = Cobalt Turq

whats my score ?

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This is a Violet Cobalt bread out of the same deep Violet blue line could it be a Deep Violet Cobalt ? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-08Kk8BXxMbs/UIkL5A7FWsI/AAAAAAAAAPg/npCmAGm7DqY/s800/IMG_2760p.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sG4g_axBNFQ/UIkMFtaZITI/AAAAAAAAAPo/MFK_WETuxo0/s800/IMG_276...

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can you provide some pics of the turq mauve violet?

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Hi Ben, yes that first bird is a green bird i could not believe it myself the first time i saw it

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Ben I use filter's on my iphone to tell the difference when it comes to some of the more complex color combinations like Violet Mauve Turq and even certain cobalt birds from violet and Deep's.

Then off to the UV to make sure

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Most young normal green birds are ever so slightly florescent, nothing compared to the birds we have been talking about. I have taken young blue series birds as well as violet and if I test for florescence in a complacently dark room you cant even see the bird. Violet Turq Opaline https://lh5.google...

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Yes Welcome Zane, its about time !

Johan the differences is huge, in very non scientific terms these birds GLOW and a bog standard green bird shows nothing at all.

You want to see the pictures, the tequila and beer is on you this time my friend

Regards,

Peter

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Hi Johan,

The short answer is yes I have compared to normal green birds under the UV and they look nothing like these.

Peter

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Pallid Pied

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Hi Ben, Just a plain Deep ? Take a look at this, the Cock is one of the "odd birds" and the hen is a normal DK Green/blue Cock https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-upKEbdJqFIQ/UIKiX7cy6eI/AAAAAAAAAM4/BgErfy3KA2g/s800/IMG_2681.JPG Baby 1 (Very florescent under the UV) https://lh4.googleuserco...

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Thanks Ben !

The Green series pics are great and a huge help as a comparison, i am going to my breeding partners this weekend to see chicks and will report back.

Please can you give me the colors in order of the first two pictures?

Thanks,

Peter

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Ok Jealous Ben

What you make of the color ?

regards

Peter

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Hi Ben, They are Clear Headed Fallows and the Olive one is split Clear Headed Fallow, hence the one bird with dark nails. This picture was taken at noon with a flash https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jTfMb2MGwlQ/UIFqH6nmDRI/AAAAAAAAAMk/AzEEHkd3Ltc/s800/IMG_2650.JPG The birds are completely differen...

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OK Guys, We put the SA "deep blue" to a DK Green/Blue and this is what we got this year: Please keep in mind both these birds are green and out the same nest. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iLV8pxFDvik/UIDwfz3PgUI/AAAAAAAAALs/fXMtZ15f3fg/s800/IMG_2651.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent....

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Hey Ben, Here are the results of a little experiment we performed. Tail feather form one of the babies https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PGmiEuz7N_4/UHPS7QrUyHI/AAAAAAAAAJs/Wj6SX5meN0U/s800/before%2520hammer.JPG Tail feather bashed repeatedly with a hammer https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w3Yb0ko...

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SA "Deep Blue" vs Oz Deep Blue (Oz birds on top)

Regards,

Peter

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OK lets get this thread going with some pictures of my Red birds. And to short cut some of the questions: * They are alive and did not die after 18 months * They have all gone through the 2nd molt * No deficiencies * We are 3 generations down the line (the babies are red and the chicks from them are...

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So one year later and what have we learnt ?

So far I have identified to the following mutations that have produced Red IRN's

1) AMD Pied
2) Clear Tail
3) Ino
4) Pallid

Anyone know of any other mutations that large quantities of red have occurred ?

Regards,

Peter

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Hey Madas,

They only get calcium just before breading season and during, so i am pretty sure it has nothing to do with feeding.

On a completely different subject, how did that possible dominant pied of yours turn out?

Regards,

Peter

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Hi Ben, Ok two pics of the Violet bird i was taking about, same bird in both pics just different lighting conditions. what are your thoughts? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gaxL-SPmyMQ/UHPD_-uE81I/AAAAAAAAAI0/58hWsVphPfI/s800/DSC02202.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M-iERdKzBkA/UHPD_YtcsR...

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Hi Recio, I have 4 birds bred out of 3 different pairs that have this effect. My birds are fed on seed, soft fruit or vegetables and supplement's daily so defiantly not a deficiency. They are intresting under the UV as well, picture in inside of the wing under UV. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...

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Hi Recio,

These birds are starring the second molt and still have it, I also thought "Copia De Plumes" in the beginning.

Regards,

Peter

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Hi All, Please take a look at the wing feathers, has anyone come across this effect before and in what? https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VVXVb-0oGBU/UHLRhnE7ndI/AAAAAAAAAIk/hhmKL1qYvKk/s800/DSC_0493%2520-%2520Copy.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_fXkxB12C0M/UHLPZTirIAI/AAAAAAAAAIM/QJ6EOmxBZ...

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Hi Ben, The first is The CHF "pied" is part of a breeding program that my father and a friend are busy with we 6 birds currently in the blue and green series. Yes the NSL Ino CT is a young bird, still needs to do its second molt then they look a little more the part. Well the strain of Vio...

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Violet Turquoise CHF

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Young NSLino Clear Tail

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lets try this Clear Headed Fallow again so we can actually see the bird

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undercover like

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Hi Ben, I Have a few CHF as well as CT i wish i could post pictures, but after a year on this bored apparently i haven't posted enough to be allowed to post pictures yet. Here in South Africa my CHF's are big strong birds, and I literary just chucked a pair in the cage and 3 chicks later, I have alr...

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Hi Ben, Its quite the opposite the CHF and CT offspring are strong normal birds and a very interesting combination. As for NSLino in CT and CHF it is VERY difficult to tell the difference when the birds are younger unless you have breed the birds yourself. The have noticed in young NSLino CT and CHF...

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Hi Again, Nice pics, gonna go with Glen on this one. I have a Mauve Violet Pallid cock and the bird is almost completely a almost dirty white other than on the rump as mentioned the has still kept a slight mauve violet tinge. I would not say that its a turquoise as most of my turquoise pallid's look...

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HI

Please post a good picture of the eye and the rump of the bird at the top of the tail.

Regards,

Peter

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Thanks that helps, what would be the best, a Turquoise Gray Opaline/Pied or a Violet Green Opaline/Pied or do you have a better combination as a best bet?

thanks

Peter

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The ADM Pied - red that I have hatched is a visual dominant male, with large amounts of red under the wings, socks, and on the chest and in the tail.

The objective is to get as much red out in the offspring as possible.

Thought?

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or a Turquoise Grey Opaline ?

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OK so i will start the debate with myself:

so why would a Violet Opaline be a better option vs a Grey Cinnamon Pied ?????

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Hi All,

I have a few questions:

1) How would i enter the Adm Pied - with red, bird into the Genetic Calculator ?

2) Other than the obvious what other combinations would be suggested to bring the red out even more ?

thanks,

Peter

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