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Pluck a couple of adjacent blackened feathers outside of moulting time. They will no doubt grow in ok and then start losing colour and are brittle at the ends which get ragged from normal preening. I had the same feather issues with some of my lorikeets. Improved diet seemed to assist. It is not a c...

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The green flights are actually bluish now? Gratz if you have a TurquoiseBlue how about a comparison?

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Molossus, is this the pairing? Blue x Dhani /Blue? Just because the birds are grey coloured doesn't mean Grey is involved. Why would your source mess things up with a new mutation by putting Grey into them?

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Ben, how do you reconcile the flights colour?

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Mike's results back up the Emerald parblue theory....but then we have green winged Emeralds breeding Blue birds..(Gratz')

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A Parblue has only 2 phenotypes with none visible in Green series.

Sorry, : When I say Green series I mean a wildtype Blue locus, both sides.

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What has changed to believe that Emerald is not a Parblue mutation? Ben, no change for sure with me yet however in the meantime, with respect to Gratz' bird and assuming: We now have evidence of 3 phenotypes. Chris' DF Emerald, Gratz' bird and my birds. Gratz' bird is SF but is different to my SF E...

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Gratz, looks like you have a mystery bird. If it bred a Blue, you have possibly a SF Emerald /Blue not a SF Emerald Blue which logically mine would be if we are talking an incomplete dominant Emerald mutation. All of my straight Emeralds have the bluish flights. While we are on it, how about some ot...

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my emerald hen was bred by Phillip Highland and it has green flights nothing like a turquoise flights I knew these would come in handy, they also make great wings for balsa wood air planes. Gratz, if the flights are green but you aren't breeding all Emeralds then we have a mystery top EmeraldBlueTu...

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the Deep Green Pallid must be nice. Pallid is so much nicer in Green series IMO.

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the thing that puzzles me is the non df emeralds that produce 100% offspring ... are these co incidental?? Breeders in Oz are breeding EmeraldBlues together, and then selling off the df birds without realising what they have. The new owner just assumes he has an EmeraldBlue. To get a DF Emerald you...

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Kappa, what hen did you breed your Deep Green to and are you in Australia?

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Back to Emerald inheritance. As Molosus and Willy say there are reports of apparent SF Emeralds producing almost 100% Emerald offspring or at least higher numbers than the expected 50%. Which could be the underlying mechanism? Any idea? Food for thougth for this weekend. These 'emeralds' which are ...

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I have no excuses in any event, no Ino eyes!!

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Recio, this pair was apparently owned by the first ever breeder of a Deep Blue who is now deceased. He obtained the Deep Greens from the Smiths. I don't know if they were already /Blue or whether he did the initial breeding of /Blues. The Deep Blue might in fact be a Blue for all we know and that pa...

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Madas, you led us astray with the "ino" in the name. Probably your smiley's indicated that was not the case. I do not know the meanings of most smileys so only went on the assumption that it was one of 3 Parblue Inos. In any even I'll bet that you would be hard pressed to tell an EmeraldBl...

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Deep Green and Deep Blue, mature birds

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It is definitely not a TurquoiseBlue Ino so it can only be possibly an IndgoBlue Ino or probably an EmeraldBlue Ino.

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Molossus, my breedings so far show roughly 50/50 EmeraldBlues and Blues from EmeraldBlue x Blue. I have heard of breeders only breeding EmeraldBlues however.

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Violet Emerald under-wing pic

This matches my Violet EmeraldBlue

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I just wonder, if Willy's patched emeralds were violet also, would it look as light as the one Madas posted? Here is an update of the 'patched emeralds'. As you can see they are clearly different from a TurquoiseBlue, the darker green being different and coming in in different areas of the bird. Al...

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Got it Madas, cheers

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I posted images of a Violet Emerald on the "Emerald" thread. Not the same

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I would pair it with either a violet or a cobalt. a Violet EmeraldBlue for reference flash and no flash. A pretty bird [URL=http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Trabots/media/Trabots%20IRNs/VioletEmeraldBlueflash_zpsac1fdeda.jpg.html][img]http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s541/Trabots/Trabots%20IRNs...

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Here is that last pic. Photobucket sucks. Sure would like a quick tutorial for all as in "Pasting images on Indianringneck.com posts for dummies" CW, Dark, Dark Violet, Deep Dark Violet, Deep Dark [URL=http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Trabots/media/Trabots%20IRNs/cwDarkDarkVioletDeepDarkV...

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How are you guys re-posting my images without the URL business? I deleted the originals from Photobucket but they are still in the posts??

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Hi Willy, I was browsing through your picture gallery (again!), and noticed the label: Deep, Deep Dark, Deep Dark Violet, Deep Violet Blues I screwed up again, must have been Deep in thought. Again I apologise. The file name for the very first image is wrong also. I will repost the images with corr...

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Ignore, last post I am having a bad run of things, sorry folks. No more trick questions! After checking my original I find that the label is correct, the file name is wrong. Then looking at the tails and flights I confirm the Deep Blue is in the middle as you have said. This was taken by the fellow ...

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Willy, can you please confirm these birds? The label says cobalt, deep blue, cobalt. The filename says 2xDeepBlueCobalt. Not my birds, they are 2 x Deep Blues on the left and a Cobalt right. Always look at the tail feathers if possible. The file name is correct, I must have made yet another mistake...

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No mate, I have 2 for sure triples, Deep Dark Violet Blue and several Violet Mauves. I also have a possible DF Deep Violet. That's it for now. Now that I have Deep Dark Blues I will be working on the DF Deep Dark Blue as soon as I can.

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You should find what you need in here, its a library of images mostly my birds and many have been posted on this forum.

http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Trabo ... wap&page=1

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Hi, if I had an Emerald and not much else it would have to be just a Blue to pair it with so half your young would be Emeralds (EmeraldBlues until proven otherwise). If you have other birds to choose or can buy, I would buy another Emerald to breed df Emeralds and EmeraldBlues which would set you up...

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Just testing you ...............hah, I mean duh! Meanwhile are these pics related at all? Don't know where they came from. [URL=http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Trabots/media/Trabots%20IRNs/DSC02844.jpg.html][img]http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s541/Trabots/Trabots%20IRNs/DSC02844.jpg[/img] [/u...

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Well for once we have a mutation name which has nothing to do with colour but has many meanings in Hindi for great wealth. The departed Beatle, George Harrison's son Dhani fits the bill, with a worth of some $250 million. I too look forward to the fledged images and of course will then be trying to ...

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detailed info will be discussed on the genetics ext.

Sorry, I failed to see this. Where can we find??

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Skyes, next time I will try and remember the wing shot. Remember however that any comparison is futile unless they are together in the same image. The Cobalt in the image looks Blue, just as an example because there is no Blue bird in the image.

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Good stuff Madas, they are the end birds? These appear slightly different shades, are other mutations involved. Is the middle bird a Blue or a Parblue?

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The hen looks to have a Dark factor and one other unknown factor. IMO the chick is a combination of all 3.

Just realised how dumb that was. 2 Dark factors makes a Mauve so I am mystified again.

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Further to this I got a pretty good pic of the Deep Dark Violet and siblings: cw, Dark, Dark Violet, Deep Dark Violet, Deep Dark [URL=http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Trabots/media/Trabots%20IRNs/cwDarkDarkVioletDeepDarkVioletDeepDark.jpg.html][img]http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s541/Trabots/T...

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Great pics Madas. The mystery Blue bird when you blow it up there is the tell tale mauve blush on the face and neck so I make the father a Dark TurquoiseBlue. The hen looks to have a Dark factor and one other unknown factor. IMO the chick is a combination of all 3.

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very valid point Willy. Sorry, but I don't think it is. Ben, the article you posted has Terry's recommendation that it should be paired with another one. Whether a modifier gene or not, it will still have a locus which it calls home and that locus has room for two. There is therefore obvious logic ...

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I know, I know, same old query from me, but if a renowned breeder has had a new Blue IRN since 2004, why has the DF version not been bred 9 years later?? Only the homozygous bird will give the knowledge.

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Not doubting you at all Ben as Sheyd has said, I was just showing another candy cane ringneck image which I came across, nothing to do with your posts in between. Sorry to have raised your hackles mate. I raised the question about this image long ago and Maxine advised that it was a Cobalt Violet. ...

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Not doubting you at all Ben as Sheyd has said, I was just showing another candy cane ringneck image which I came across, nothing to do with your posts in between. Sorry to have raised your hackles mate. I raised the question about this image long ago and Maxine advised that it was a Cobalt Violet. I...

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And this one of a Cobalt Violet

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What I have is only the mother SF Deep Violet TurquoiseBlue and this youngster. Sometimes the Turquoise is a PIA, I would have much preferred not having it in this instance.

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I think the bird I underlined is rather a SF violet green / CHF, with the bird at 11 o'clock a DF violet green / CHF.

Nope, there are 3 red eyed CHFs and a DF Violet Green split, ignore the bird at 11pm, not a ringneck. Both DF Violet Greens have their heads hidden, one is a CHF, the one at 12pm.

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I am convinced about the Emerald in the birds, that's the value of images over words. Still would like to see the EmeraldTurquoise parent.

Madas, is what you saw the same as Chris' image above?

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Tienie, this bird I think is a DF Deep Violet TurquoiseBlue. It appears darker than its Deep Violet TurquoiseBlue mother at this stage, confirmation of these birds usually has to wait until the 3 month moult. [URL=http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Trabots/media/Trabots%20IRNs/DFDeepVioletTurqBlue.jp...

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I will have images shortly of Violet Green CH Fallow and DF Violet Green CH Fallow soon, this is the clutch last week. From 12 o'clock CW, DF Violet Green CHF, DF Violet Green /CHF, Violet Green CHF, Green CHF, from another clutch, Dark Violet Green, all /Blue. Flash used. [URL=http://s1305.photobuc...

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