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Hi Johan, I have to agree with you on the point that the popularity of the IRN will in time be determined by the cost and frequency of permit renewal. I suspect the pet trade will be where the market softens the greatest. I can't see pet owners paying an annual fee which could be more than what thei...

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Hi Ben, That's good to know. I've probably confused our O/S friends with the reference to being Mexican :D . Personally, I think this is all going to end up being a revenue raising exercise through the introduction of registration of breeders and permits to keep IRNs and other exotics. Its currently...

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Hi Ben, Yes this is a Victorian issue, but don't think for a minute that it wont have future implications for the rest of the country. What you're missing is the fact that if IRNs turn out to be classified as an unacceptable threat, then they will be only be able to be kept as pets. This means that ...

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Hi Johan, Thanks for your support. For those breeders who are not aware of this, some back ground info on the proposed new amendments of the legislation is out lined below: It is not pin pointing specific breeds but has a blanket ban on all non- native species. Petition Background (Preamble): Curren...

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Hi everyone,
I have just been informed of new laws and legislation about to be pass on the 16th of may. They are similar to those faced by our SA counterparts.
Can anyone confirm this. If so we need to get the ball rolling on our own fight.

Kappa

Interestingly enough, Martin's deeps come from only one source and he still gets variations in colour. He has told me that the colour can vary between clutches of chicks from the same pair. Johan, I will see if I can organise some photos of the variation I have seen in his df deeps. I don't know if ...

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Hi Wasim,

You only say the mother is blue, if she is also a pallid then paired with the albino they would give you a blue pallidIno, which is what your bird looks like.

Kappa

Hi Madas,
You're right.

Sometimes the imagination can work faster than the brain

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Hi Mike, If you do decide, in due course, to pursue breeding and TurqoiseEmerald ino I would suggest trying to at the very least aim for df TurquioseEmerald ino. I did own a df Turquoise ino in the past and the depth of colour would rival any lutino. It was a nice deep yellow and very uniform covera...

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Hi Robert,
Thanks for the info. I will check it out.
Cheers,
Kappa

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Hi John,
Thanks for that. I will have to chase one up. I've been using one I purchased off the shelf from Bunnings, but I don't think it filters out the light enough.

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Hi Lushen, Here are some photos of my deep green cock under uv. http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b583/Kappa1975/imagejpg5_zps1b983824.jpg http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b583/Kappa1975/imagejpg4_zpsd3d49593.jpg http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b583/Kappa1975/imagejpg1_zps3feffe0e.jpg Hi Jo...

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Hi Shey,

Isn't it bad when you have too many options.

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Ben, That's good to hear. I think going back to basics and starting from scratch will prove to be the best option here. I hope that there is more to this than we expect. :) I have split up my deeps this season. The deep cock is with a df violet hen and the deep hen is with a blue cock. No df deep gr...

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Hi Ben, The history behind my birds is as follows: The original sire(df deep green) of these birds was purchased from JS by a breeder in Victoria called Ross Nickoli. He paired him to a turquoise blue hen and they had 3 chicks. 2 cocks and a hen. Martin purchased the cock and three juveniles. Martin...

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Hi Lushen, I can't really comment because I only have looked at juveniles under uv. So I don't know the extent of the fluoresence of an adult green hen. Do you have another adult green hen to compare with? I don't have an adult green hen. I will however, take some photos of the deep green cock under...

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Hi Lushen,
If you go to the start of the thread you will see a uv photo of the deep and wildtype. The deep is much brighter.

Kappa

Cleartail or even CHF, with the turquoise, very nice.

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Johan,

I had two such blues. They were brothers, but I have moved them on, so I won't be able to answer your question.

Kappa

That neck ring you see is normal for hen and juvinlie birds to have. Being two its hard to say if its male or female without a DNA test. The other option is, wait another year and see after the annual moult if a proper adult male type neck ring appears.

Kappa

Form those photos it appears that 1 is blue and the other is a cinnamon blue judging from its pink feet.
Hard to identify colours when birds are wet.

Kappa

It doesn't sound very good at all and your vet seems to be taking advantage of your situation. If the bird didn't have any problems walking before there is no way it could be a vitamin deficiency. You are not very clear as to the nature of the incident, but from what I can make out is that the bird ...

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Hi Shey,

What are your plans for him? I think cobalt, violet or even violet cobalt hens would be good with him.

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Hi Ben, Thanks for that info from Willy. It substantiates what I have seen in the flocks of others, and yes I agree that these different variants need to be matched together and see if any df offspring are produced form such pairings. This would help narrow down the true deeps, and possibly identify...

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Hi Ben, Your information from JF about producing birds that darker than dark green, could plausibly mean that it would be possible to produce darker than dark blue from the genes such birds. Now that would be nice, and imagine that in df. :D I can see whee you're coming from. I have personally seen ...

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Hi everyone, This might ruffle some feathers, pardon the pun. :D Firstly, I must state that this is not an exercise to prove who is right or who is wrong. Both Ron and Willy have vast experience in mutation breeding and are very knowledgeable in what they do. However, we all know that the photo of R...

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Hi Tallis,
I have seen some of my pairs already mating. At this stage I think it's just a relationship building and bonding behaviour. The hen will only go down when she feels the time is right. Nothing to worry about.

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Try DNA Solutions in Melbourne. Affordable and accurate. Never had a false test so far.
I'm assuming your from Oz.

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Hi Shey,
He is a cracking bird. Yours?

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That breeding proves that she is split blue and therefore they will produce young that look like the parents. The young blue male you have kept will be split for the pallid mutation so with the other green pallid hen they will produce green pallids and green/blue/pallid cocks and green/blue hens. If...

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Hi
What you have there are a green pallid hen and a blue pallid cock, and not the clear head clear tail mutation. The offspring you can exepect from this pairing will be pallid green/blue cocks and hens. If your hen is split blue then they will also produce blue pallids in cocks and hens.

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You will get green and greygreen offspring. If the hen is also split blue then you can also expect to have blue chicks as well.

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Yes it's possible if one of the parents was grey and the other green split blue, or the other combinations that will give those results is if one parent was a greygreen split blue and the other either blue or a green spit blue.

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Yes you're spot on. If the chick is turquoise, the cock bird will be split turquoise and not split for blue. If he also proves to be split ino, you will get creamino hens and albino hens from that pairing as well as blues, greens and turquoise in cocks and hens.

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Just an update on my deep green? Or misty?, maybe deep misty? Confused yet? I am. It has turned out to be very interesting. A green bird dark green tail and virtually no blue with pale head. And brown nails. Here, with wild type on left. http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b583/Kappa1975/birds011_zp...

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Hi Shey, I hope these photos are of some use to you. By looking at your cock bird I would lean towards df violet cobalt. He looks similar to the bird on the far right, which also expresses a certain "greyness" around the neck and crop area. They are molting so look a bit scruffy. These you...

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Hi Everyone, It's been very interesting following this roller coaster of a thread. However, there is information that has been published almost a decade ago clearly stating that the emerald is recessive to green, co dominant to blue and acts in the manner of a parblue mutation ( page 51 of Basttians...

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Hi Willy,
Thanks for the new photos. My first thought was that its a deep dark green. Obviously a very dark green, more so than any deep I have seen. Clearly, some further investigation needs to be done by both parties. I still think that there might be something else at play with my deep.

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Hi Willy, I have nothing to hide and the private email was to discuss the obvious difference in what I have been lead to believe is deep green and the photo Ron has provided. I merely decided that a private discussion would be more appropriate, not knowing how Ron or Martin would react to being publ...

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Hi Shey,
I will post some photos soon. My wildtype greens are about 4weeks now. The little buggers won't grow fast enough. It very frustrating.

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Hi Recio, I wanted to wait until the chick was older to inform you of the colour of it's nails. Looking at the nails as they are atm they are a dark brown colour, not black. I don't know if they will change as it gets older. http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b583/Kappa1975/1D9E9412-84B0-4505-B31C-...

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Hi Ben, These results may have more of an impact than you might expect. Consider the idea that you posted in your deep blue thread. The idea that deep greens are infact green/deep, and why their phenotype is the same, or exceptionally close, to that of a wild type green. I still don't have any clear...

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Hi everyone, This chick turned out to be so much more than I expected. It will be a very versatile addition to my breeding program. There will be more photos and comparisons to come. My only disappointment is that I lost a dark green chick, it would have good to have when comparing the different gre...

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And just one more.

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Here are some more photos

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Hi Everyone,
It's been a few days since looking at my deep green chick and its feathers have grow enough for me to be able to say that I would call it a df deep green.
It is definately different to its father, darker and more of an olive colour. Here are some pics.
Cheers.

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Hi Johan, As you can see from the photo posted by Willy, and photos I have posted in regards to deep greens, there is very little to tell them apart from the wild type green. They would quite easily be over looked in a flock of wild type greens. I even doubted that my cock bird was deep, but only fo...

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Hi Dukaring,

Nice birds. Looking at the last photo posted, the pattern and colour of the flights is not what I would expect to see on a normal lutino. Possible that it is an opaline - ino. Normal lutinos generally have lighter yellow even white flights.

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Hi Shey, Congrats on the new brood. They are looking good. I'm afraid the anticipation of waiting to find out what the babies are doesn't get any better with future breeding seasons. After many years of breeding its still like my first season, every year. It's an addiction and you just need your dai...

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Hi Tabaneske, There are a number of mutations that have a different head colour. They are, pallid, clear tail, clear head fallow, and opaline. The pallid, clear tail, and clear head fallow all have a white head in grey coloured birds. The opaline in grey will have a darker grey head compared to the ...

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