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mallee_1

Madas,

I have a NSLino, I will have a look and let you know what I have.

mallee_1

Hi All, Going back some time ago there where some members toying with the idea of pairing Emerald x Normal green birds, did anyone go through with it and if so what results did they have? I myself was going to do it, but the pure??? normal green cock I was getting never come through as the owner did...

mallee_1

Sheyd,

I thought that would be the case.

I have a pair set up which I believe are both df violetbluecobalts, one I breed and another I bought as a violetcobalt but it is too dark and rich in colour for a df violetblue.

Time will tell, both very compatible and currently working the box.

mallee_1

Madas,

Unfortunatley this was some time ago and he has no pictures and I dont know of anyone with any. As I said I haven't seen another one around since then.

Thoughts I have it was cinnamon in the mix as it was at a point here in Aus that cinnamon was all the rage.

mallee_1

Has anyone breed Double factor violetblue Mauves? Do shoot me down if I have the wording around the wrong way, is there a correct way to start the naming of a mutation like this, ie the violet before the mauve or the other way around? If anyone has could they share a picture with us, I am guessing a...

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Just going back in time to birds that where breed some time ago that I haven't seen around anymore and trying to work out there genetic make up. Had a coversation with an old time breeder about albino cock birds displaying a caramel coloured neck ring that he breed some fifteen odd years ago. He cou...

mallee_1

Anyone in Australia breeding NSLino or these albinos breed from H&T.

mallee_1

Hi Guys, Can we clear up what determines or disinguishes the difference between a saddleback pied & a harlequin pied in Australia. After seeing this go on for some time now, I still can't clearly pin what the criteria is to determine one from the other. I have seen pieds around that seem to be p...

mallee_1

I am with Gratz Df violet Sf dark.
Glenn

mallee_1

Hi All,

Just seeing if anyone has been playing around with the recessive inos through different mutations and whether they have been producing any interesting or different results to the sex linked ino combinations.

Has anyone breed creaminos with the recessive ino mutation?

Regards Glenn

mallee_1

Hi All,

Anyone out there seen what the deep mutation does in blue pallids, does it make them darker and how do they compare with dark blue pallids.

Anyone with photo?

Regards Glenn

mallee_1

Hi, You might be surprised, from my breeding results the df violetblue pallids tend to go a grey colour, the sf violet blue palid is the better looking bird. In saying that it depends upon the darkness in the pallid as some pallids are light and these will strip the colour out of the bird, so go wit...

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Not sure where it orginated and if it is an aquired pied. Will make a call and try and find out some more info. So the ADM pieds dont have a neck ring? are they as heavily marked as this bird? Would aquired pied be the same as the mottled pied that is in the Kakariks, born pied and pregressively get...

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Hi All, Came accross this pied indian on Paul Byrnes web site. I was interested in the comments under the photo in relation to whether it is a recessive pied. To those overseas breeders who breed them, do you think this is a recessive pied, I have the dominant pieds and it is certainly different to ...

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Hey Gratz, Good to see you on here, I still have the Indigo violet pallid (lacewing) I bought off you some years ago and she is still a stunning bird, still trying to get some Indigo pallids from her, all have just been violet lacewings, no Indigo as yet, will keep trying, got her paired to cobalt l...

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Hi All, Been following this thread with interest and it seems to still be creating some differing thoughts. I am not up with the technical terms you go into but I am considering putting a pair together that might provide some answers. I am trying to buy a pair of normal greens that have only ever pr...

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Hi Tartan, I am with you on this one, why call it something its not, its a violetblue cinammon thats its genetic make up. Same as the skyblue, blue cinnamon, but everyone refers to them as Skyblue, ask around if anyone has a Blue cinnamon and see the blank looks on faces, not so much the breeders be...

mallee_1

Willy,
How would you distinguish difference between df violetblue & df violetcobalt. I would assume df violetcobalt would be darker bird?

Glenn

mallee_1

Willy,

So all the young cocks out of the pair that have breed Cin Violetblue H&T hen will only be possible split cinnamon, will be looking for a definate split or even Cin blue H&T cock, may be onto one at the moment, thanks for the offer.

Regards Glenn

mallee_1

Ben, The horse has bolted, I think we will just have accept that when we buy a H&T bird it could well be split NSLino, it simply can't be removed easily, over it. Has your mate with the greens test breed them back through blues to ensure they are pure greens? as Johan said most green birds getti...

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Ben, Take one for the team??? I dont own the birds so wont effect me as I wont buy any h&t from these people anyway knowing what is going on. They are quite happy to move in the direction of going through green series bird to breed splits and pairing up, they are not in it for the money!!!!!! as...

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This is probably directed to the S.A members but to anyone who knows or seen recessive lutino head & tails. Does anyone have a picture of one and are they desirable or just a yellow looking bird. I have a friend with a couple of Albino cock birds breed out of blue series head & tails (split ...

mallee_1

Hi Peter,

Any chance of seeing some pics of your recessive lutinos with extent of red markings?

Regards Glenn

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Hi Willy, What is the distinguishing features to look for to determine if a bird is carrying Emerald in Violetblues & Cobalts? I have posted in another thread on "What am I" a young bird that is carrying Emerald to which you guessed correctly and I have 2 other siblings which one is de...

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Willy you are on the money, my guess is it's a Emerald DF Violetcobalt, Ben your thinking my way and only missed out on the Emerald. You can see a olive sheen through the bird which is just visible on photos and under the wings it is a real creamy olive colour. This bird if cock which I will gaurant...

mallee_1

To All,

Yes thats what it appears to be, buttttttttttttttt only one of the parents is carrying the single dark factor, so Mauve??????

I think Madas will sort it out.

There is another mutation in the mix, have a good look at the photo again.

See if you can pick it up, good luck.

Glenn

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Hi All, I need a little help with identification of the following bird. I have an idea what it is but want to see if others can pick what it is. I wont give you the parents yet and see what answers we get back. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LkD2jNvcrdQ/UI8m9mWnqGI/AAAAAAAAACA/JWtqQtxefiQ/s800/I...

mallee_1

Sorry to take a couple of goes, but I am trying again.

Emerald SF Violetblue Pallid hen

Hope this work this time

Regards Glenn

mallee_1

Well that didn't work again, I followed the process from other section of how to post picture, must be doing something not quite right, Ben & others need some help, want to share some photos for comments and dont want to burden Ben all the time.

Regards Gelnn

mallee_1

Hi All,

Trying this again, see if picture attached of Emerald SF Violetblue Pallid hen.

If it dosnt work then that is it!!!!

Regards Glenn

mallee_1

Hi Peter,

So this combination is from the reccesive lutino line, have anymore been breed from this pair?

Regards Glenn

mallee_1

Hi Madas,

You wouldn't by chance have a photo of a DF Violetcobalt that you could share?

I am having trouble working out how to post pictures and given up!!!

Regards Glenn

mallee_1

Hi Willy, Good to se you on this board, miss your banter on the other site. Yes I thought the cinnamonblue h&t would be washed out but I was thinkng of the green series, its not the combination that most people would pair as they are chasing the violets & cobalts. Sounds like you have a blue...

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Hi All, This may be one for Madas, is there anyway you can pick the difference between DF Violetblue and DF Violetcobalts. Parents Violetcobalt x DF Violetblue, I can workout what outcomes but how would you distinguish between the two if both carrying DF Violet. Would it be easier to pick colour dif...

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Hi Ben, I tend to agree with Madas, to me looks like cinnamonblue but very light, needs to go through moult. I wouldn't be pairing up with that hen unless you want to completely wash out the what violet is left in this hen, the cinnamon will add to the pallid effect. Ever seen a cinnamonblue pallid,...

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Hi All, Trying this for first time, attaching photo of Indigo Violetblue Pallid, this was the photo I found on computer from some time ago, still to get photos of this bird and the emerald violetblue pallid as they are rearing young and I dont want to disturb them to much. If this dosn't work then I...

mallee_1

Hi, You have definately got a turquoise violet pallid, you can tell by the amount of colouring through the back and wings, the Indigo has the opposite effect, it reduces the yellow/cream colouring through the whole bird and leaves the violet colouring with mininmal amount of yellow/cream colouring o...

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Hi Dan,

You will definately get some very nice birds from that pair.

Intereseted in the cock bird DF VioletblueCobalt, what was the parents of this bird?

Did you find the Lavender cock bird you where chasing awhile ago?

Glenn

mallee_1

Rod,

What do you breed if you pair a turquoise x green?

I thought all young would be green/turquoise?

Regards Glenn

mallee_1

Anyone seen cinnamon in head & tails?

I can not say I have ever seen one, anyone else seen one and maybe have picture?

Regards Mallee

mallee_1

Hi Johan, To me it looks like violetcobalt, this is what I have been breeding with cobalt & violet combinations. I think you have answered you own question "the bird is more violet than a violet" this is typical of the violetcobalts, in my breeding outcomes the violetcobalt colouring i...

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Hi Lushen, Looking at the photo I would be putting more nesting material in, you will have problems with eggs sitting on bottom of the box, and when they hatch out you can end up with young with splayed legs as they cant sit up because of the slippery botom of the box , there legs slide apart and be...

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Hi All, Has any one outside of Australia seen or heard of the combination of Emerald(Aqua) Turqouise Pallid (Lacewing). I currently have A 2yo SF Violetblue Emerald lacewing hen and thinking of putting through SF Violetblue Turqousie split lacewing cock next season. Seen combination of Emerald &...

mallee_1

Hi Madas,

What about Aqua or Emerald, no one seems to have in calculators.

Regards Rigs

mallee_1

Gemma, Ring them as you may be able to get it over as a pet, they have definately stopped the import of Indian ringnecks and a few other birds on the basis as they are a declared pest. They dont want escaped birds establishing in Tassie. You will need a permit and there is restrictions on what can f...

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Rod,

Is the bird on the left Mauve?

Also anyone have picture of turqouise mauve and turqouise mauve cleartails, interested to see how the turqouise interacts with double dark factor blue.

Rigs

mallee_1

Hi Kimi,

You will get violet pieds in Aus for around $2000 - $2500 depending upon amount of pied, quality.

Blue pieds for $1200 - $1500, again quality of piedness will determine price.

mallee_1

Hi,
Sounds like the Indigo mutation, this is typical with this mutation. The cream colouring comes through as they get older.
Is the yellowing more of a creamy colour?

mallee_1

Hi Recio & Madas, I have made the observation as well as others that the dark factor in the cleatail series tend to carry more colour through the central tail feathers than the blue & violet cleartails, but in saying that there are some out there with pretty good clear central tail feathers ...

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No I am not going to comment, others can have a go and see how long it takes to work out.

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