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- Wed May 03, 2017 3:58 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Mutation calculator
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4046
- Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:49 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: clearhead fallow opaline
- Replies: 28
- Views: 15521
Re: clearhead fallow opaline
Has anyone produced a CHF Opaline bird yet ? appreciate if anyone can pls share reference snaps of an adult CHF Opaline male thanks Ask Sjack for pics of such a combo. He has breed one (femlae) in 2015. But the bird isn't as nice as an opaline CT. And a male will get the head of a CHF. For now such...
- Mon May 23, 2016 4:22 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: harlequin pallid
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3245
Re: harlequin pallid
Both are melanin altering mutation. So a combination should be avoided because you will end up with "lutino" looking birds.
So best way is the combine both mutations with structual (dark, violet, deep) or (and) parblue (turquoise, indigo, aqua) mutations.
So best way is the combine both mutations with structual (dark, violet, deep) or (and) parblue (turquoise, indigo, aqua) mutations.
- Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:21 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: deep Violet?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4570
Re: deep Violet?
Yeah i would agree with you Kappa.Kappa wrote:It looks like a double factor violet cobalt.
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:18 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep
- Replies: 45
- Views: 151898
Re: Deep
The blueish rump in micks pic:
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:47 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep
- Replies: 45
- Views: 151898
Re: Deep
Ma das wrong photo the photo refered to is of a single bird and clearly marked first aussie mauve and even better would be to find out how it was bred. :lol: :lol: :lol: there was a bunch of 5-8 pics showing one and the same "aus mauve" in comparison with some other birds like pallids and...
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:12 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep
- Replies: 45
- Views: 151898
Re: Deep
There is a photo of the first Australian Mauve on Mick Blakes site Karmic Averies I think it was taken in early 2003-4 I think Ma das would be interested in that. No madas wouldn't be interested in these pics because he already has and know them. And it is showing nothing more then a Misty(df) blue...
- Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:52 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep
- Replies: 45
- Views: 151898
Re: Deep
It is my opinion that these birds do form part of the dark mutation which has been confirmed by MUTAVI and the proving of it being a different mutation has been inadequate and flawed as this mutation has never been documented as to how it behaves in a controlled breeding program that is devoid of o...
- Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:12 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep
- Replies: 45
- Views: 151898
Re: Deep
Hi Madas, I have a small number of birds, 6 to be exact, that originate from a cock bird that is better known as a Swales olive. Gavin Swales worked with these green birds for years and bred a number of them in df and called them olives. The Deep blues were eventually bred from these green birds. H...
- Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:01 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep
- Replies: 45
- Views: 151898
Re: Deep
Can you give us some more details?Kappa wrote: yet my breeding results to date don't reflect the outcomes you'd expect from deeps.
thx in advance.
- Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:00 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Deep
- Replies: 45
- Views: 151898
Re: Deep
Deep is a confussing unnecessary term used to create interest in varying expressions of Dark mutation. And again you prove your non-existing knowledge on avian genetics. The dark factor by definition is incomplete dominant and is creating a greyish phenotype for the homozygous form. Any other struc...
- Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:52 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Is this a creamino?
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3162
Re: Is this a creamino?
No. Looks more like a cinnamon grey(sf) turqBlue.
- Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:51 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Biallelic expresion
- Replies: 27
- Views: 40194
Re: Biallelic expresion
Since we know that this is valid for Violet and Grey I guess that CTCH could be also acting at the structural level, producing secondary changes in pigment expression. But keep in mind that mostly (98%) the dominant mutations are changing the structur and the recessive mutations are responsible for...
- Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:12 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Biallelic expresion
- Replies: 27
- Views: 40194
Re: Biallelic expresion
Hm, i thought different alleles are the cause for a mutation.Recio wrote: To me, Indigo is not a mutation but a morphotype (...) which can be achieved through different alleles.
madas
- Tue May 26, 2015 4:10 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Grey green ID?
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3041
Re: Grey green ID?
And what is the question?
- Fri May 22, 2015 5:41 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: The saddle is back
- Replies: 35
- Views: 56843
Re: The saddle is back
Looks like Turquoise marker.
- Thu May 07, 2015 2:54 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: The saddle is back
- Replies: 35
- Views: 56843
Re: The saddle is back
Some updated pics of Bobs parblues from the org. "SB" female of OZ. Thx Bob for your contribution. violet(sf) female: http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/sam2380snepy6mv0z.jpg violet(sf) male: http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/sam23785k0hvjadil.jpg http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/up...
- Thu May 07, 2015 2:53 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 41709
Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
To make it shorter: if you pair a phenotypic Parblue to Blue and you never get Parblue offspring and/or you get green series offspring you should consider the possibility of dealing with a new Parblue belonging to another locus (Blue2). As said 1000 times in earlier posts Bob Irvine has breed two &...
- Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:51 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 41709
Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
we only have one nest from Irvine suggesting that it is another Blue(1) allele. I think that it is not enough to conclude. On the one hand you are excepting that a single unexpected offspring could prove resp. disprove a theory (for example: single green offspring from a pair bronze fallow x NSLino...
- Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:12 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 41709
Re: How could a parblue behave as recessive to Blue?
To make it shorter: if you pair a phenotypic Parblue to Blue and you never get Parblue offspring and/or you get green series offspring you should consider the possibility of dealing with a new Parblue belonging to another locus (Blue2). As said 1000 times in earlier posts Bob Irvine has breed two &...
- Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:47 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: The saddle is back
- Replies: 35
- Views: 56843
Re: The saddle is back
To me the most impressive finding in Bob Irvine's female is that the melanin and psittacin deposition seems to be mostly independent, specially in the body (head colour is not easy to determine), that is I can not see a single feather showing a green colour, but just yellow or blue or white colours...
- Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:37 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: The saddle is back
- Replies: 35
- Views: 56843
Re: The saddle is back
1. The red ring of a Turquoise Emerald (or TurquoiseEmerald, selon hypothesis) shows a lower amount of red psittacin than a TurquoiseBlue bird. This statement isn't correct. The emeraldTurquoise of Len Mitchel are showing a normal pink neckring. http://img4.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/1042214315614...
- Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:11 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: The saddle is back
- Replies: 35
- Views: 56843
Re: The saddle is back
Chris SB, as I specified above, seems to be a combo of Dom Pied lacking melanin in the saddle area + specific Parblue with an increase in psittacin pigment specially in the saddle area. Look at those pics: http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag57/jrecio99/SaddlebackViolet_1_zpszaxdbxwv.jpg http://i...
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:46 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: The saddle is back
- Replies: 35
- Views: 56843
Re: The saddle is back
You wrote ..... "Bob Irvine has breed two violet(sf) "parblue"Blue offspring birds from Garrys famous first "saddleback" hen of OZ paired to plain blue." Could you show us the pics of these parblues bred from SB? We know that Emeralds breed Emeralds, Indigo breed Indig...
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:24 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: The saddle is back
- Replies: 35
- Views: 56843
Re: The saddle is back
So here is some new input to the saddleback discussion. Attached some pics of an emerald dom pied. undewing which is showing the typical emerald markers: http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/10959461102915isw28q7hve.jpg short after leaving the nest: http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/1546386...
- Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:08 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: The saddle is back
- Replies: 35
- Views: 56843
Re: The saddle is back
as breeding results not producing Turquoise birds after pairing to Blue series birds seems to suggest (could it be a Parblue 2???). This statement is not correct because Bob Irvine has breed two violet(sf) "parblue"Blue offspring birds from Garrys famous first "saddleback" hen o...
- Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:19 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Mistyerious clutch
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7883
Re: Mistyerious clutch
They look like the khaki violets of Mr. Ehrenbrink.
- Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:07 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am I?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4191
Re: What am I?
One of the parents was a malabar (Psittacula columboides). Second unsure.
Maybe Psittacula alexandri or Ringneck.
Maybe Psittacula alexandri or Ringneck.
- Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:54 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: african ringneck
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5122
Re: african ringneck
May i ask which mutations do you have? I know of only lutino and possibly blue.ZaneFindlay wrote:I also have mutations in both species
- Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:57 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: saddleback emerald
- Replies: 9
- Views: 16612
Re: saddleback emerald
Some other pics of Chris. He will comment on his own.
- Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:50 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: saddleback emerald
- Replies: 9
- Views: 16612
Re: saddleback emerald
Underwing pics:
- Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:22 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 45838
Re: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?
Hi Recio, here is a pic of a possible cinnamon-ino blue breed this season here in Germany. Unfortunately the bird died caused by a crash followed by a neck fracture. :( Do you see the soft brownish overlay? This is the pheneotype i would expect for such a bird. Your cinnamon-lutino looks much more d...
- Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:15 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Lutino Cinnamon/blue
- Replies: 10
- Views: 9855
Re: Lutino Cinnamon/blue
Not a cinnamon-ino but a cinnamon-ino blue:
- Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:07 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: saddleback emerald
- Replies: 9
- Views: 16612
saddleback emerald
Chris has asked me to post some pics of his first "saddleback emerald" breed from saddleback blue x dom. pied emerald cobalt.
Happy viewing.
Happy viewing.
- Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:57 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: NSLino
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5953
Re: NSLino
Yes i am sure it was NSLino.Recio wrote:Hi Madas,
Are you sure it was about NSL Ino? I read it also somewhere in facebook but if I remember correctly it was about a kind of fallow (dun fallow???)
Regards
Recio
- Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:13 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: NSLino
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5953
NSLino
Hi Are there two kinds of NSLino floating around in IRNs? For sure the "NSLino" out of cleartail lines are showing a visible iris. But Peter Oeschger mentioned some where that his "NSLino" isn't showing a visible iris. So is there anybody who can confirm the existence of two dist...
- Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:06 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66844
Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree
Looks like two distinct phenotypes. SL Edged b irds in dark(sf) green and violet(sf) green.sheyd wrote:
- Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:03 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66844
Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree
Looks like Violet(sf) Dark(sf) Green for me too. So congratulation.sheyd wrote:Yes, I think its pretty safe to say that she's a Violet(sf) Dark(sf) Green
- Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:27 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am i? (again)
- Replies: 25
- Views: 25229
Re: What am i? (again)
Madas, Did you get any updates on the DNA results ? I still think Opaline is in play. We have seen Opaline to turn into white headed bird in Phil's "DF Pied Opaline" So here are the males: Misty SL Edged IndigoBlue Grey /Cinnamon /Lutino and the other is SL Edged turqBlue /Cinnamon /Lutin...
- Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:21 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: What am i? (again)
- Replies: 25
- Views: 25229
Re: What am i? (again)
I have asked Inte and he told me that there are no conclusive results regarding this breeding programm due to low participation.Ring0Neck wrote: PS: Does anyone know what the results were from this testbreeding program?
http://www.mutavi.info/index.php?ref=appeal2
madas
- Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:38 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
- Replies: 98
- Views: 198766
Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat
Recio ,, Madas et al... of the 2 pairs of alex : pr 1 emerald green /blue - Albino pr 2 Emerald green/blue - green/blue I have been breeding emerald blues , emerald greens and greens. I lost 3 red eyed offspring and perhaps 6 other chicks D I S due to bad incubator controls... this season I have a ...
- Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:19 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66844
- Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:11 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66844
Re: Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Gree
If these (Violet(sf)Green, Dark(sf)Green or Violet(sf)Dark(sf)Green) are the odds then i would vote for the last option violet(sf) dark(sf) green. for comparison a oliv pos. violet(sf) and a violet(sf) dark(sf) green (siblings). parents violet(sf) dark(sf) indigoBlue and oliv /blue. the violet(sf) d...
- Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:31 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
- Replies: 98
- Views: 198766
Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat
Madas the green emerald hen is paired to a blue normal cock. 4 chicks..still to feather. thx. If you got one plain blue chick then emerald could be dominant. If all 4 are emerald blue series then it is 99% a rec. mutation but with small visible markers in the green series. :) Hi Lee & Madas, If...
- Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:27 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
- Replies: 98
- Views: 198766
Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat
thx. If you got one plain blue chick then emerald could be dominant. If all 4 are emerald blue series then it is 99% a rec. mutation but with small visible markers in the green series.Molossus2 wrote:Madas the green emerald hen is paired to a blue normal cock.
4 chicks..still to feather.
- Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:00 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutation?
- Replies: 98
- Views: 198766
Re: Can (turquoise/emerald) Parblue ever be a Dominant Mutat
Mike,Willie ,,, my emerald green harlequin irn (the one i posted pics of sometime ago) produced what appears to be an emerald blue..it is the first of four chicks, and its pins are just pushing out. Whadya know? The green harlequin I stated to be an emerald green appears to be just that. I will pos...
- Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:42 am
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Can someone help please?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 7341
Re: Can someone help please?
How do the eyes of the parents look like? For what i can see from the pics tehy have no visible iris. Is it true?
- Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:56 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Can someone help please?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 7341
Re: Can someone help please?
Would be nice.mickeyd wrote:I could take a few pics and of the parents if that will help
Thanx
- Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:45 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 45838
Re: Are Clearhead fallow and Violet linked?
I have not found the file I was looking for but those here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Genetics-Psittacine/conversations/topics/10 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Genetics-Psittacine/conversations/messages/14630 Hope it helps Recio Hi Recio, after reading through the whole discussion i...
- Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:39 pm
- Forum: Mutations/Genetics
- Topic: Can someone help please?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 7341
Re: Can someone help please?
========================================================= 1,0 cleartail turquoiseBlue x 0,1 cleartail turquoiseBlue ========================================================= % from all 1,0 1,0 25% cleartail blue 1,0 25% cleartail turquoise 1,0 50% cleartail turquoiseBlue ---------------------------...