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Hi you can find a pic of a cinnamon violet(df)blue at: http://www.fabulousparrots.com.au/ I have attached it for you. http://content.breederoo.com/users/RJSParrots/images/photos/gallery/4742917.jpg pics of normal cinnamon violetblue can be found in the www. try google. :) Or here: http://www.indianr...

madas

If i'm correct and the pair is blue/pallid cock and lutino/blue hen then the blue chick will be a cock and the pallids would be hens Sorry you aren't correct. This pair will give you: 1.0 blue /pallid x 0.1 ino /blue % from all 1.0 25.0% 1.0 blue pallidIno 25.0% 1.0 pallidIno /blue 25.0% 1.0 blue /...

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Molossus2 wrote:What if the dam is lut/bl/lwing?

Hi,

what do you mean with lying? Lacewing aka pallid?
A hen can't be split for pallid because it is a sex linked mutation.

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McmillanBirds wrote:Hi all

I was wondering if it was possible to get a blue opaline pallid?

I know the pallid takes away colour from the head and the opaline makes the head darker, but whether these 2 mutations can mix.

Regards
Carmen

They can. See here: http://indianringneck.net/MutationPics.html

madas

madas

Try to post some pics of the parents and the darker offspring. perhaps one of your turq cobalts is a bad (light) colored turq violet and the offspring is then a (turq) cobalt violet. But rod is right if the really are two turq cobalts. Pics will show it. ;)

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Hybridisation isn't a good idea and shouldn't be done due to the trouble you experienced. If you really, really wan't to go on in breeding this hybrids then you have to breed your first hybrid offspring to new unrelated (regarding the parents) alexandrines. And the offspring of these pairs to anothe...

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Love your genetic calculator (tho not my results lol) and your mutation page is awesome! Thanks goes back. :) Do you referring to the silverlight version of my genetic calculator? If so then please notice the small grey bar at the top of the screen. there are two buttons for loading and saving the ...

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blueindianringneck wrote:
I don't speak German, but Google translate is my friend lol. I checked out your site. And I was wanting to know, Clover, my green male, would he be a violett grün? (Violet Green)

No normal green.

madas

blueindianringneck wrote: Oldest has one eye open

That's the right time to band the chick.
btw: band size 10 says nothing. Can you measure the inner diameter of the ring?

thx.

madas

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Molossus2 wrote:Do it at 17 days

Why that? What size of bands do you use? I use bands with an inner diameter of 7 mm.
I think it to late. A good sign for the right time on banding the chicks is then they open thier eyes (small slot). Htis is around day 12-13.

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madas

Hi I have read that to get creamino babies you need to pair a turquoise and a lutino( I have a turquoise blue male and lutino female), but on genCalc it says the babies will be visually green and then split to other colours. What would the birds need to be split for in order to get creaminos? Thank...

madas

Regarding licensing: If i remember correct there is a building licensing system within the .NET framework.
But first step to protect your source code is to obfuscate it. Then it isn't that easy to solve the mystery behind
your code. ;)

greetings.

madas

From first view great software. I will test it a little bit more to give you some more feedbacks. But the first advise for you is checking licensing. There are some better ways to protect your hard work. Example Request Code: BFEBFBFF000006F6 Example Registration key: BZiemlPp/BSxhDjZr2QUS7kXwcpjco5...

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( it cant be split Lutino but can be split Albino because its Blue ) In a genetically point of view this isn't correct. Such a male is always split for ino and not split for lutino or albino because lutino and albino are terms for phenotypes. Lutino for a green series ino bird and albino for a blue...

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There are no blue ringnecks that are split for cobalt because "cobalt" in a better way the dark-factor is a dominant mutation.
So there are no splits for a dominant mutation. If they carry the dark-factor then they are cobalt or mauve but not split.

the same for violet or grey.

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Madas what you think of these birds green violet? or even edged file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/yy/Pulpit/DSCF8564.JPG file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/yy/Pulpit/DSCF8566.JPG I can't access your local files. :D So upload them to a pic hoster (imageshack.us) and then post the links. But n...

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Nope, the bird isn't carrying cinnamon. All pics show the same bird but in different light.

greetings.

madas

KJ1988 wrote:Welcom

I'm looking for photos mutations green violet edged

Here you go:

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Molossus2 wrote:Light testing should not be done more than once.

Can you explain why?

thx.

madas

rod038 wrote:All the young will look the same from either pairing.

I think this is a rumor. As Lushen1600 posted the second pairing will produce PallidInos.

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I would say it is a not fully colored/matured clearhead fallow blue cock.
Does birds have red eyes? A visible iris?

thx.

madas

The lutino hen parents are meant to be straight lutino with no splits according to the breeder. The DNA certificate I got with the male says blue/pallid, if that helps any. if it's true then you have one pallidino green male (the one which is nearly yellow), one pallid green female and one green /b...

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Hi there you are not wrong but have a look at the % based on visually only. 1.0 grey(sf) green /blue x 0.1 grey(sf) green /blue % from all 1.0 56.25% 1.0 grey(df) green 18.75% 1.0 green 18.75% 1.0 grey(df) blue 6.25% 1.0 blue % from all 0.1 56.25% 0.1 grey(df) green 18.75% 0.1 green 18.75% 0.1 grey...

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Dog_glenn, did you mean grey-green pallid? What i wrote i meant, If i put grey blue pallid it would look mainly grey and not green. So grey with out the blue gene is grey pallid. 1.0 grey(sf) blue /pallid x 0.1 ino % from all 1.0 25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) pallidIno /blue 25.0% 1.0 pallidIno /blue 25.0% 1....

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Hi there i will go with grey pallid which makes it a hen, It could be grey pallidino which would make it a male but it looks to dark for that! Which means the father of the bird is greygreen split pallid(lacewing) Thanks Glenn Hi glenn, the bird in question does truly show a green color so the term...

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rod038 wrote:Yes the Olive is combined with Blue to make the Mauve.

This isn't correct at all. If you combine Oliv /blue with blue you will only get darkgreen /blue birds or cobalt birds. But no mauve. So the blue bird must carry at least one darkfactor.

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Codys Mom wrote:what a beautiful bird

Hm. The most beautiful part of a violet ringneck is gone by wing triming.

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Madas, I am not afraid of her but I know her well enough to know there is a large possibility of her drawing blood from me if she sees me as a threat to her eggs/chicks. I have to re-emphasize I do not plan to remove the chicks for handraising, but having said that it would be foolish not to have a...

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Rod, she does leave the nestbox. What I was thinking was putting a net over her while she's outside to prevent an attack if I need to intervene. I'm going to leave the chicks with her to raise but was thinking in case something does go wrong. She doesn't come back into the nest until you leave the ...

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dog_glenn123 wrote:Hi there,

Double factor violets are only darker in Australia,
The rest of the world they look the same, but the breeding results change.

Thanks Glenn

Where did you get this funny information from?

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c0keguy wrote:Can any one please post a picture of turquoise grey lacewing (creamhead grey) Male's picture here .. really need to know how the male looks like after its an adult .. would appreciate that ...

http://www.indianringneck.com/forum/vie ... f=1&t=8315

madas

Hi again, The probability for a cinnamon-opaline male (homozygous for two sex-linked mutations) is extremely low. If you add two more recesive mutations it becomes nearly impossible. What about the parents and possible offspring? Could you give us some more data? So ... you said bright head: every ...

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Some more mutations? In plural? Let's see: Turquoise because the 3 colour ring, green head in a blue series bird and patched wings. May be it is turquoise-blue and you are considering 2 mutations for a turquoise phenotype? Cinnamon because of the "golden olive" colour of green wing patche...

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Hi, Let's go: turquoise cinnamon saddleback is what it looks to me ... but I know that people breeding saddlebacks would never mix with cinnamon in order to avoid loosing colouring , so probably it is a turquoise saddleback. Where did you get it? I have not seen the bird in either Mick or Chris col...

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Recio wrote:We can see that the tail is yellowish (it is not a turquoise cleartail which would have displayed a white tail, and would have been a more coloured bird)

I vote for exactly such a bird. cleartail turquoise cobalt or cleartail turquoise. Really nice bird. Where did you get this bird???

greetings.

madas

So what do you think which mutation combination is this bird:

madas

dog_glenn123 wrote:So here we go again next guess boys and girls!!!.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx29 ... ess3-2.jpg

Ta Glenn

So do you have some harder riddles???

It's a violet saddleback (dom. pied) of Chris Whips.

madas

So lets see: the parents (cleartail turquoise cobalt x cleartail darkgreen /blue) in the aviary: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5366/compimg396401.jpg cleartail violetgreen /blue x cleartail violet: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7057/img1311ru.jpg cleartail darkgreen /blue x cleartail violet:...

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Now questions for Madas, why are the nails of the cock bird not black? especially since it is dark factor and possible d dark? because light feet and light coloured nails is one characteristic for the cleartail mutation. And this is often the first sign for a cleartail offspring in the nest. greeti...

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I remark that your bird could be DF dark since both parents are dark So what do you think a cleartail oliv /blue should be? ;) So to be correct: the bird is a cleartail DD green /blue (doublefactor dark). Hope it's clear now. :) And thats why the tail feathers look mauve like. He is setup with a cl...

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Hi, OK I will not sleep for next coming days ... :lol: This is the first time I hear something like that. I own a young grey-green cleartail male split blue (very similar to the bird in your post) and his tail is pure yellow. Could you post the pic of the tail? ... and tell us something else about ...

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Hi Recio, ok i will solve the riddle. It's a cleartail oliv /blue. the two main feathers of the tail are mauve. the left one and the right one between these two main feathers are oliv to mauve. i have noticed that all my other darker cleartails have non yellow e.g. non white main tail feathers. DOn'...

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Hi, So no violet. I know you do not breed grey .... so we are dealing with the dark factor. Since you tell me that a pic of the tail will solve the problem I am going to tell you my first thought and the reason I did not bet on it: a young dark green cleartail. The fact that the undertail is yellow...

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Let's go for the challenge !!! About the green bird (the blue one is out of focus but it looks violet-pied in my computer): it is a young bird as his/her eyes tell us, so no way to know if it is a male or a female from the pic. The general colour is dark green. You can get this colour with these mu...

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dog_glenn123 wrote:Well its proven, its in both blue and wild series!!!
So at least 6 year old mutation....

It looks like grizzle only on the head!!!???

But possibly rec.pied and dom pied at the same time?

The wild is a hen...

Ta Glenn

Does your text refer to my photo?

madas

Try this one:

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quite IRN wrote:lets see you guess this =]
http://tinypic.com/r/99juv8/7

DF Turquiose.

madas

cinnamon greygreen. if split blue you can't tell from the picture. Only from the parents mating.

Nice bird.

greetings

madas

Recio wrote:Hi,

I think it is a green dilute. It looks overall yellow-greenish because there is an homogeneous partial lost of melanin.

Recio

Hi Recio,

yup. I have totally overlooked resp. never thought of this mutation. So you're right. Dilute is fitting best.

greetings.

madas

No, it absolutely is not a lutes, when I have him aquistato, you/they have called him/it Lemmon, you/he/she has reflected green and a po of grey clear in the wings. I don't succeed in inserting the images. you excuse the translator. :oops: Perhaps bronze fallow. Look here if the bird fits this muta...

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